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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[โ€“] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I don't get what you're saying about rights movements. Every single rights movement has been nothing but an uphill battle for acceptance, and no rights movement has ever benefitted from saying "okay, you can hold onto this right for now, as a treat."

I'm not labelling anyone anything. I'm saying that there's more important things to deal with right now. You don't need to get on board with transgender athletes - you just need to stay focused on the real problems. If you support them, great. Defend them.

If you don't support them, fine, but you need to attack the very idea that the national conversation has anything to do with transgender athletes. It doesn't.

The fascists in charge don't give a shit about the issue, it's just a weapon in their arsenal, and a means of distracting you from the real problems. Every moment someone says "actually that's a good point, let's talk about sports" is another moment wasted. None of it is about sports. It's about a rising wave of fascism that needs to be stopped at all costs.

[โ€“] psivchaz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

I think I misunderstood what you were originally saying and we're more or less on the same side. My point was that it's not about saying "okay we'll stop caring about this" but about saying "this isn't the thing we need to be focusing attention on right now." I worded it very poorly.