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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Young men are not some new phenomenon. Their desire, in a word, is agency.

As the world has grown more interconnected, the world has become more visible. This has created a crippling awareness of their place in the grand scheme. Nietzsche's void has opened beneath them and, in the ignorance expected of youth, they grasp at what is presented to them. Selling hope to the desperate, even false hope, is lucrative, so there is no shortage of hucksters and charlatans offering it to them.

The ultimate problem is that there is no pleasant truth. When faced with the existential horror of being, the truth doesn't help. You cannot focus on learning to be a better version of yourself when facing raw terror. A comforting lie will get you to tomorrow. Truth will send you to the long, dark night.

So, when offered a pretense of agency, in almost any form, they take it. Some pretend that the problem is simply women. Some say it's other 'races.' Some say it's this or that ideology, whether economic, social, sexual, psychological, or anything else. They all just want to feel like they can make a difference, just like everyone else.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

This is a better expression of what has happened/is happening than "they have no role models".

The world has been changing faster and faster since the industrial revolution. Our culture seems to be experiencing growing pains from such rapid growth. There is less hope than ever,

"The comforting lie that gets you through to tomorrow" Absolutely, the propaganda has been layed on these men thick.

[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A lot of fancy words to say nothing

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world -1 points 20 hours ago

It all has meaning. I used high density language because I didn't want to spend a long time on the response, which I admit does require a certain level of experience with the concepts to be readable. Was there something you'd like me to expand into simpler language to make it clearer for you?

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I can see why you called yourself lazy