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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've said it several times on Lemmy. The American left consists of:

  • The DNC establishment, the Pelosis and Schumers of the world who are mostly in it for the insider trading. Their stance on issues falls somewhere between Hitler and Nixon, Israel is their #1 priority, and I'm not sure they care about the wellbeing of the average American citizen anymore than a typical seven-armed octopus does. This group holds all the political power of the "left."

  • The rainbow hair collective. The gay trans vegan gender blender ambiguously brown righteous indignation victim complex crowd. Amongst them they agree on very little, there's actually a significant amount of infighting, basically the only thing that unites them is their mutual hatred of straight white men. This group wields basically no political power; they're nominally represented by Ocasio-Cortez in the House and Sanders in the Senate and that is literally it. But, this is the cohort has a lot of control over the party's campaigning and messaging, and they've also basically got control of Hollywood.

The result of this is the DNC's messaging is often centered around identity politics. There was that meme floating around that read:

"Can we have some help?"

๐Ÿ˜ - No.

๐Ÿซ - No. #BLM #๐ŸŒˆ

Which...sums it up. Neither party will vote to help the citizens at large but the Democrats will pay empty lip service to the non-white and non-male.

During the Harris campaign, there was a pretty big emphasis on finding a straight white preferably Southern male running mate for Harris. My own state's lame duck governor, Roy Cooper, was mentioned, before it went to midwesterner Tim Walz. They then proceeded to have this straight white man cosplay as...the caricature of a straight white man acceptable to the gender studies majors in charge. Remember the live stream of him doing some repair task to a classic pickup truck?

Everything I heard about Tim Walz was good. I distinctly remember reading about some of the student athletes he coached talking about how much they liked him. Everything they showed me about him was as cringe worthy as Ghostbusters 2016. Harris herself was caught on an open mic acknowledging that they weren't going to win the election without men, and then they came out with the "I'm man enough to vote for a woman" campaign. Because the people they got to write the commercials just couldn't fucking help themselves.

I held my nose and voted Harris. Because while I'm unabashedly vocally critical of feminists and the rest of the identity politics left, I'm very much not a Retard Nazi. The Identity Politics left will accuse me of being a Retard Nazi because I score less than a 110% on their purity test, but I've voted in every election since 2008 and I haven't cast a vote for any Republican in my life. That's not good enough for the voice of the Democrats. Nothing in the universe can be.

Just...keep yelling at teenage boys that the last 300+ years of history which they had no possible way to impact was their personal fault. That'll start working one of these decades.

[โ€“] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

there is a cure for political illiteracy