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GrapheneOS vs LineageOS vs iodéOS
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GrapheneOS vs LineageOS vs iodéOS
According to Comparison of Android-based Operating Systems, GrapheneOS seems to be better than LineageOS and iodéOS in every aspect.
I'm wondering if there is any downside of GrapheneOS. What am I giving up for using GrapheneOS instead of LineageOS and iodéOS (besides GrapheneOS only support pixel)?
In terms of privacy, security, customizability and functionality, which OS would you recommend and on what device would you recommend using it?
Answered questions
- Does LineageOS supports muti profile like GrapheneOS (I thought all AOSP supports multiprofile feature)
- Does LineageOS supports full device encryption using some open source app? (like veracrypt)
- @https://lemmy.world/u/who@feddit.org Yes, full-device encryption is built in to Android these days.
- Can LineageOS supports Sandboxed Google Play with some tweaks?
- no
Some questions
- If there is backdoor planted in pixel (which in my opinion is very likely), then I guess the “risk of an adversary gaining physical access to the phone” is quite equal for both of OS?
- https://lemmy.world/u/upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com - It is highly unlikely there is a backdoor in the Pixel. It’s just not worth the risk for Google. Not only are the phones highly scrutinized by experts but Google has a million other legal ways to get info off your phone for 99% of users who use the stock OS.
- @benjaminoakes https://lemmy.world/u/benjaminoakes (how do I @ another user in lemmy???) and I qoute "Graphene is likely to run into issues soon. They were relying on the AOSP source tree including Pixel-specific files. Google isn’t releasing those anymore, so GrapheneOS would have to reverse engineer or extract the needed files somehow."
- should I be concerned about this issue? Will it affect my experience in the next 5 years ? (I usually update my device in 5 year cycle)
thanks a million
The only real downsides of GOS are that it only supports Pixels, and that it doesn't support microG (I can see the appeal of Sandboxed Play Services, but I would personally have preferred microG).
I would only recommend three groups of devices:
If you have apps that require play services you can install them to another profile in GOS. Profiles stay active if you like and you can get notifications from other profiles as well. That way you can limit data exposure for play services and apps using them. I do this on my GOS and it works very nice. Though you should use Aurora store to get play store apps (you can get it from f-droid). Many apps from play store work well with out play services.
thats good to know, Many Thanks
Google turning Pixels more and more complicated to have alternative OS isn't a good sign. I hope GrapheneOS come up with a open source and secure phone alternative. Fairphone or TeraCubes using alternative OSes aren't private or secure enough. I hate to say that but if I would be in the market today for a phone I'd be considering an IPhone.
I'll probably switch to LineageOS and harden it myself if GOS starts floundering, but that would be purely to get my money's worth out of the hardware.
After that, I'd go for my alternative setup of dumb-ish phone + laptop + refurbished iPod.
MicroG is somewhat hacky solution that emulates play services. When you have proper play services you do have all the functionality available. Since it's sandboxed play services don't have any privileged access to the system thus can only access data which is available to any normal app.
Being in the Privacy community, I'd say microG is the superior solution to have the functionality you need without giving google access to your device.
Can u explain why you would recommend Fairphones and TeraCubes?
In terms of customizability, what limitations does GrapheneOS have aside from not supporting microG? Also, is it possible to install tools like Magisk on GrapheneOS? I’m not entirely sure what Magisk is, but it is always helpful to have more option.
thanks a lot!
Fairphones and TeraCubes are ethical hardware. Fairtrade, repairable, and possibly open-source (I'll have to double-check that).
GrapheneOS is customisable, yes, but LineageOS is moreso.
Magisk is a tool used to root Android devices (essentially adding an
subinary to give the user root access). However, this makes the system inherently less secure, and undermines the whole point of GrapheneOS.I guess I'm going to buy 2 devices one for GrapheneOS with only Open Source app installed and one for LineageOS for using app that doesn't work on GrapheneOS.
Thanks a lot
The only apps that don’t work on GrapheneOS are apps that use the strong play integrity API. These don’t work on LineageOS either, only stock OS.
thanks'w