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I'm excited to announce that Voyager now has experimental support for logging in with Piefed! You can try it out today on:

This will roll out to the official app stores and vger.app soon(tm), once Iโ€™m confident there are no major regressions. If you prefer not to switch to beta builds, just hang tight.

Please note that Piefed support is EXPERIMENTAL! There are still many things that don't work quite right, which I'm hoping to improve over the coming weeks.

The basics including scrolling home/all/local, viewing posts, blocking, commenting and voting should work well. However there are some known issues:

  • Can't sign up for a Piefed account in-app, only log in with an existing one
  • Subscribed communities list is empty (should be fixed soon!)
  • Inbox tab doesn't load
  • Comment search doesn't work
  • Profile upvoted/downvoted doesn't load
  • No moderation tools
  • Mark as read doesn't persist
  • Creating/editing posts is currently untested
  • ...probably a bunch of other stuff too, please let me know below!

Behind the scenes, this interoperability is made possible thanks to aeharding/threadiverse, a new library I am working on to normalize various threadiverse-software APIs. It's open source so any project use it, but it's under heavy development right now. What's cool about this is in the future, adding support for mbin, or whatever else is possible!

Again, feel free to try it out and let me know if there are any more issues to be documented and fixed.

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[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm unable to log in with my existing piefed.ca account (which works with the interstellar app).

No real explanation given, just a generic error.

Haven't used voyager before, so it's not an older app or missing update, I went straight into the beta.

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Piefed.ca may be running a slightly outdated build of Piefed, but it's hard to tell because Piefed isn't versioned yet. Do you know an admin you could ask?

[โ€“] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Piefed.ca now upgraded to 1.0.0

I believe they had just updated to 1.0.0 yesterday. And I believe this is the same version that piefed.social is running on as well.

When I try using the web app version of the beta, I am able to see all the piefed servers (.social, .world, .blahaj.zone, etc) but I am still unable to connect to piefed.ca.

[โ€“] Shadow@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I did an upgrade last night, but just did another one again. Try now?

[โ€“] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just gave it a shot and I am having the same error.

[โ€“] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weird, I haven't done anything....

[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Not sure what happened to be honest, but at least it works now!

[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/890 Yeah I think piefed.ca is just a bit outdated. Things are moving really fast, this was only fixed a couple days ago.

[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

That's probably it!

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think I'm on the same discord as one of the admins, let me check.

I'm getting the same error with piefed.social though, just tested - I don't have an account there, but the error comes when I select the server, before even being promoted to enter my credentials.

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

piefed.social should be fine, that's what I've been testing with! I'll keep my eyes out though.

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just got an update from google play this morning, though the version number is still 2.37.0, and I still get the error. On both piefed.social and .ca, no idea. I don't even get to the login screen, the error comes when I select the server and click "next".

Tested logging in to Lemmy, which worked just fine - sending this very comment through Voyager.

Would it help if I share my logs?

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

.ca has known issues. .social should work though. What build number do you see on the About page?

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

piefed.social

preferred.social

What surprises me most is that using interstellar, I can log in to piefed.ca just fine:

interstellar - piefed.ca

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Try build 698, just released :)

Should fix piefed.social. ca still has known issues with admin array not returned for some reason

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hope I'm not spamming - in 703 (just updated) I now get to the login mask on piefed.ca, but then get a connection error when trying to actually log in. But hey, progress!

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not at all. thanks for letting me know (that was the hope of making the original post!) try the next build coming down in a sec

[โ€“] viking@piefed.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Woohoo, it works! With the limitations mentioned, but login and viewing at least is supported. And in a second I'll know if I can comment :-)

Edit: Looks like I can. Awesome!

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] viking@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By the way, is it too soon to post issues for piefed on the github tracker (or here?), since it's still early stages anyway and stuff is knowingly borked?

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for everything!

Should we just post directly into issues on GitHub for any issues related to piefed/experimental?

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Yes, Github issues please

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago

Will do as soon as it's available for me, can't see it on the play store yet. Thanks!

[โ€“] magikmw@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've updated to latest beta and all piefed instances besides blahaj are throwing the same error for me now.

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for your help, try the next build when it comes down the pipe

[โ€“] magikmw@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Hi, reporting from Voyager on piefed.social. Works great so far. One thing I noticed not working is community search, but it may be on my network end, not sure. Great work!

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

Updated to 698, no changes on my end - both .social and .ca throw the error message just like before :-/

[โ€“] bert@piefed.monster 3 points 3 days ago

Same as you, I was not able to log into my instance on Voyager but can when using Interstellar

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

Beta Track [697] d0aef95

[โ€“] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

i'm having the same issue with piefed.social, i reset my password and double checked logging in with the web worked.

having the same issue at piefed.blahaj.zone so might be my device. This is so cool thank you so much just knowing it's gonna happen is delightful.

[โ€“] aeharding@vger.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How strange. Only other thing I can think of is Piefed will rate limit API logins, to 6 per hour. After that it will fail.

[โ€“] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That seems low. I've increased it to 20 per hour.

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are those login attempts per user, or overall API logins?

[โ€“] rimu@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

In that case this shouldn't have been an issue, I tried from my home wifi and mobile without VPN, and nobody else in my household is using PieFed or Lemmy.

[โ€“] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So I can get to the login page on preferred.social, which is the piefed testing instances with all the newest features, there I get the voyager popup that support is experimental etc., so maybe that can rule out device/general connectivity issues?