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You can blame only Republicans which even if they disappeared wouldn't solve the issue, or you can acknowledge that both parties are corrupted by oligarchs and PACS
Republicans: categorically awful on every single issue
Democrats: Not that
Babies: waaaah I want a competitive party that matches my opinions on every single issue
Find me one major party in the entire world that matches your personal ideals 100%. Spoiler: it doesn’t exist, unless you happen to be a king or dictator of an authoritarian state.
Two party systems means you have two parties with distinct ethics, and one party winning consistently means the country’s ethics will shift over time in the favor of that winning party. So keep spite voting against Democrats and see where that gets you.
Edit: you know why the Democrats are similar to Republicans on so many issues? Because Republicans keep winning elections.
It's not about opinion, there is scientific studies that give you evidence how the democratic interest of the vast majority is not represented, but the rich.
There are also historical theories that explain why this neo-fascism was the inevitable outcome of neoliberal policies, because material conditions degraded. That's why it's happening everywhere, not just the US.
The democrats shifted to the right, or away from social democratic policies since Trump not because they are winning strategies - but because they know the alternative for the voter is even worse. So policy not according to being able to win, but being able to gain and maintain power (donors, influence) and wealth.
Policy currently has absolutely nothing to do with ideals, ethics or ideology. Those are just pretty words sold to the masses.
You'll need drastic changes, a purge and redistribution of wealth and power and the news and social media.
Extreme leftist don't vote then wonder why a candidate doesn't try to earn their vote.
Thanks for sharing your feelings with us
Does the truth upset you?
No, your feelings don't hurt me. Unless you can provide some fact based evidence, you are simply sharing your ignorant feelings.
Just go scroll through these forums and you can see a large amount of leftists who clearly think strategic abstention is the way. They are morons but it doesn't change what is on this website.
Are you able to differentiate between facts and feelings?
A few idiots in a forum aren't representative of a larger group. Unless you can back that with data you are projecting your bias on a microscopic sample size.
I've seen 40 years of leftists shooting themselves in the foot by not participating. It's also been 40 years of basically no real progress left. Almost like if you make no effort you will get no results.
These are still not facts, but your own experiences. You actually don't know the difference do you?
I could say that in my experience leftists are more politically engaged and that everyone in my circle votes. But this is simply my experience and not representative of actual trends.
I just don't like talking out my ass
Edit: clarity
Judging by my experiences the majority of leftists are pedantic assholes who do more to sabotage their interests than capital ever could this is simply my experience and not representative of actual trends. I started my second statement with "I've seen" hows does that indicate im speaking out of anything more than personal experience? You should up your reading game.
So no, you stated that your perception was truth. Then attempted to back it with your experiences.
Good effort on the backpedal. I'm not sure you should be throwing stones about reading comprehension.
Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Who is "we"? I don't see any real leftist politicians in the US. We have elections. If no one votes then the candidates you want don't get elected. I know its difficult to understand for you but it's truly not that complicated. Your kind would rather keep pretending you matter while sitting on the side lines and talking shit about anyone doing anything productive at all.
Do you even remember the thread you are replying to? I highlighted it well for you.
I suggest you read it again.
Sorry your getting downvoted for making the children here uncomfortable.
There are leftists trying to gain a foothold in the Democrat party, and some are succeeding (see the latest New York mayoral primary).
Many people ignore primaries, though. You know who does vote in primaries? Older more moderate voters. So progressives tend to lose primaries, then the people who didn’t bother with the primaries complain there aren’t progressive enough candidates in the main elections, so they don’t vote.
If you want more leftist candidates (within the FPTP system), support progressive candidates and show up to the primaries.