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What's a scam that's so normalized that we don't even realize it's a scam anymore? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by mastermind@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seriously? I already directly addressed this in a reply to you.

This is at best, an outright lie. You want people to vote for the "lesser evil", that is an endorsement of Biden and any other Democrat.

You are trying to play a game where you admonish people to vote for Biden but get to dodge the argument about whether he's worth voting for. You endorse Biden but will not tackle his inadequacies because they're inconvenient, so you act snide about it instead of addressing them. This is lying, but it's understandable - his actions and the actions he has failed to follow through on are indefensible.

Anyway, I'm 40 and have voted most of my life until recently. I didn't vote in the 2020 election and I won't be voting in any other elections because I'm done voting for Democrats pretending to give a shit about anyone other than themselves.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously? I already directly addressed this in a reply to you.

This is at best, an outright lie. You want people to vote for the "lesser evil", that is an endorsement of Biden and any other Democrat.

It isn't an endorsement. How is calling something "evil" an endorsement? If I said "I hate beer cheese and pimento cheese, but if I have to eat one, I'll take beer cheese" an endorsement of beer cheese? As far as I can see, I just said I hated them both.

You are trying to play a game where you admonish people to vote for Biden but get to dodge the argument about whether he's worth voting for.

No, I'm not, and the fact that you think I am completely baffles me. All I said was *the other guy is worse." That's the position I took. That does not require providing evidence of Biden's virtues, because that position has nothing to do with his virtues.

How am I explaining this wrong? How am I fucking up my point this badly? Am I writing in English?

You endorse Biden

Again, no. Calling someone slightly less horrible than former president Cheeto isn't an endorsement in the same way coming out of a movie theater and saying "well, at least it wasn't Bloodfeast 2" isn't a positive review.

but will not tackle his inadequacies because they're inconvenient, so you act snide about it instead of addressing them.

Because my statement has nothing whatsoever to do with his inadequacies. I'm not being snide, I'm just fucking confused as to why you think I like the guy.

Rattle off all the shit you want about how horrible he his. I DO NOT CARE. HE'S NOT AS BAD AS THE OTHER GUY.

That's not me being snide or sarcastic. That's me shouting the same fucking thing I've been saying for days now. I'm not endorsing him, I'm anti-endorsing Trump. I didn't vote for Biden, I voted against Trump.

Congrats. I've shifted from "confused and exasperated" to "fucking pissed off." If that was your goal this whole time, well trolled.

This is lying

It is not. It is, at worst, being disingenuous. I'm not splitting hairs here. Lying is making false statements with the intent to deceive. Even if I was avoiding your question instead of trying my goddamndest to answer it, it would still not be lying.

Fuck, it wouldn't even be dishonest, just shitty rhetorical practice and an asshole move.

I didn't vote in the 2020 election and I won't be voting in any other elections because I'm done voting for Democrats pretending to give a shit about anyone other than themselves.

Jesus fucking Christ fine! If that's what your conscience demands, then fucking do that! Just get off my dick, and learn what the words "liar" and "endorse" mean.

Fuck's sake.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't an endorsement. How is calling something "evil" an endorsement? If I said "I hate beer cheese and pimento cheese, but if I have to eat one, I'll take beer cheese" an endorsement of beer cheese? As far as I can see, I just said I hated them both.

Because you don't have to choose either. I'm not reading further, you're just too silly and this is too fucking simple to let some chud drag me into it. You're wrong, sucks, go vote for the lesser fascist and imagine you're fighting the power or whatever. Buh byeeee

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay. Don't read any further. Go ahead and walk away. It's not like you were paying attention to anything I said anyway.

You're wrong. I'm not lying. I'm not even being disingenuous. But, hey, fuck you decided I was, and u guess that's fucking it.

Jesus. No matter what side of the argument, it's assholes like you ruining the world for the rest of us. Have a nice life.

Eta: sorry, I meant to say have a nice life, you fucking coward.