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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33032120

Fuel to Air India Plane Was Cut Off Before Crash, Report Says

It appears that that Air India crash might have been caused by Pilot Error. While it's still early to be conclusive the black boxes do seem to confirm that there were no mechanical issues and that the fuel was cut off and caught the attention of the pilots.

The captain had 10,000 hours and the first officer had 3,400.

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[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hate that people are immediately jumping to "oh one of the pilots was suicidal and wanted to do a murder/suicide"

This is the same shit, whenever something happens with a Boeing plane, they IMMEDIATELY blamed the pilots because they had dark skin. They did it with MCAS with the Ethiopian flight that crashed, and now they're doing it to the Indian pilots

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To me it definitely seems very early to be blaming the pilots. Especially given the quote in the article about the voice recorder where are the pilots were talking about the cut-off fuel which means they noticed it. It could also be just a completely innocent mistake just due to the massive amount of time that a pilot has to do but it seems unusual that Pilots this experienced would make this type of mistake.

It'll be for sure interesting when the final report comes out about what was discovered but you know they're releasing this initial report to reduce damage to Boeing imho

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To me it definitely seems very early to be blaming the pilots

I agree but I think you and I are unfortunately in the minority here. Hacker News, the top comments are about it being a murder suicide, and in some group chats I'm in they're parroting the same thing

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately you know how it is when it comes to racism and United States airplanes.

Given that this is on the 787 which allegedly has some issues by a whistleblower I really curious to see the final report before I condemn anybody.

Besides both of these Pilots flew for years. That means they've flown probably thousands of flights over their lifetime and it was just this last flight that didn't go well.

Also there isn't any proof about this being a suicide. No one's released anything about any statements any of the pilots have said. And isn't that really frowned upon in India anyway?

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's frowned upon in Christian countries too, I'm not sure if that has a huge amount of bearing, though I strongly disbelieve the suicide guess.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean I feel like it's more specifically a Catholic thing then it it is a Christian thing. Maybe Protestants are like that too but from my time as a Methodist they did not care about suicide as a sin. They were much more concerned about you know getting you help professionally.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago

It's probably specific to region because the majority of people in my general region for several states is "they're going to hell." Obviously the victims already were in hell or it wouldn't have happened, and I find this attitude particularly disturbing, but I'm the obvious outlier, here.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are a lot of more conservative/fundamentalist protestants who will also tell you that you will go to Hell for suicide, but I'm sure there are places and denominations where that's not true.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I'm super glad my parents weren't really religious so I got to miss out on this particular flavor of suck

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It's difficult to conclude anything other than murder-suicide.

How the actual fuck did they come to that conclusion?

Does seem like there are people pointing out different ways this could have conceivably happened their too which is nice to see.