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What are your opinions on the future of back-end web development? Is the Java ecosystem going to wither away as more modern and better solutions are emerging and maturing?

If so, which language/framework and/or programming paradigm do you think will become the new dominant player and how soon?

Personally I would love to see Rust becoming a new standard, it's a pleasure to write and has a rapidly growing ecosystem, I don't think it's far away from overtaking Java. The biggest hurdle imo is big corporations taking a pretty big risk by choosing a relatively new language that's harder to learn compared to what has been the standard for decades.

Playing it safe means you minimize surprises and have a very large amount of people that are already experts in the language.

Taking the risk will definitely improve a lot of things given that you find enough people that know or are willing to learn Rust, but it also means that you're trading off Java flaws with Rust flaws. That's the case however with every big change, and Java flaws are a good enough reason to make a big change.

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[-] snowe@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

That being said, I'm not sure I've seen a backend written in Kotlin despite how prominent it is for app development.

That’s funny because as a backend Kotlin dev I literally haven’t seen an Android app written in Kotlin (at any of the companies I’ve worked at) but have worked since 2016 with Kotlin on the backend.

Before google announced support for Kotlin the split was massive. Most apps were backend with only a fraction Android. And Kotlin wasn’t even originally built for Android. It only happened to work and then it got popular after someone reported a bug on Android and they fixed it.

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's nice to see that it's in use for backend. I personally haven't seen it, but I always felt like it'd be a good choice for backend development.

[-] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s great! We compile it into native code and deploy it as lambdas on aws. It’s actually faster than most nodejs lambdas. I love it!

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