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Tesla's robotaxi debut in Austin got people excited. But can the company compete on the global stage with Chinese AV giants like Baidu and Pony.ai?

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All the real carmakers.

Currently the German ones may be the techology leaders, and some Chinese brand may be the market leader - but I'm no expert, I just see what everybody can see.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't see VW operating anything with L~~5~~4 autonomy.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

operating

So?

L5 autonomy.

Nobody has that yet.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, operating. Words don't cut it. Tesla's been lying about their systems for years.

You're right in that I mistyped L4.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

VW doesn't operate. They rather sell the cars that they build. So what's your problem with that?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The cars they sell are operational, champ.

Those cars also do not have L4 autonomy.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only one who sells L4 to real people currently is Mercedes.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago

They're working on it, but it's not complete. Try again.