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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently Hersh thinks Zelensky is cooked.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-end-for-zelensky Is anyone still subscribed and can get the full article?

[–] iie@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are many in Washington and in Ukraine who believe that the escalating air war with Russia must end soon, while there’s still a chance to make a settlement with its president, Vladimir Putin.

Or what? Serious question—short of nuclear war, what does the US have to lose by continuing this? Why not fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A complete collapse of the Ukrainian state means all western investments are lost. They would be better off at a certain point calling a truce and creating a rump state where their purchases are still valid. The west is fine pushing Ukraine to the brink, but to actually go over the edge of the brink into the abyss is good for nobody

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Could it be that fail-kids are in charge who don't understand this and care only about saving the "face" of western power, thus to them investments are not even considered so much as preventing a Suez crisis type collapse of the US image? Or it may be that they simply see this as a way to discipline financial capital or certain parts of it into more buy-in, into taking a big loss and using that to get them onboard with actually fixing production issues because it's finally hitting their speculative pocket books and to finally "wake them up".

In other words I think for planners of empire, at least some of them it may indeed be good to go over the edge and fight to the last Ukrainian. Russia isn't going to want to occupy western Ukraine and the west could always after beating on Russia for another year and gaining valuable field data on their weapons finally offer Russia something resembling a comprehensive security pact where Ukraine is excluded from NATO, Ukraine is de-nazified, Ukraine is kept disarmed. And the disarmed, humiliated, depopulated Ukraine is used for farmland and cheap labor under a western run but Russian friendly regime. After all the US hasn't fully finished de-industrializing and destroying the EU and Germany in particular. Keeping the war and thus EU-owning sanctions on for another 12 months could do a lot to really keep the EU from any chance of recovery and ability to compete with US power.

So I just don't know.