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[โ€“] Strae@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is slightly extreme. Go tell Europeans in the late 30s and early 40s that there's no justification for going to war against Germany. There are always exceptions.

[โ€“] gens@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We didn't go to germany, germany came to us.

Just like usa did many times.

And i don't think it was so obvious at the time. Russia was massing weapons, middle east had problems, and tensions were everywhere.

[โ€“] Strae@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're being obtuse about the definition of "go to war". If they invade your country and you fight back you're still going to war.

[โ€“] gens@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. But in the context of usa it never had a defensive war, always the agressor. And the propaganda was "they have bio weapons of mass destruction and will use them", and later "they terrorists". None of which was true. Iran was far from innocent either.

[โ€“] kava@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok I concede there are exceptions but I think even in justified war the government is full of shit. The propaganda gets pumped out in full force during military actions.

[โ€“] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like how Japanese internment in America wasn't justified, even if involvement in WW2 was.

Now there's something that sounds like an insane conspiracy theory but actually happened.

[โ€“] silvercove@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

There are people alive today who survived the Japanese internment. For example George Takei https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Takei