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[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What you’re debating and arguing for does not exist. You do NOT have the right to express yourself in any way you see fit.

I agree. You're mistaken if you think this is what I ask for. I'm saying the consideration of weighting individual freedoms against each other mustn't be taken lightly and in this specific case the freedom of expression should win.

Your whole argument of, I should be allowed to express myself in any way shape or form that I see fit. Is not a good one. Because you do not have that right.

My actual argument is this: When it comes to book burnings, since there's no harm done to anyone and no call to harming anyone either, the freedom of expression should be given priority over religious sensitivities. This would be different if there was something harmful being done or incited, but the only things that really are in danger here are books and the only people taking offense with that are people who think specific objects should be treated as more than a book by everyone in- and outside of their religion.

How many times have you gone out and burned books in public?

Never, but that would be an extraordinarily bad argument for or against any kind of freedom.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

My actual argument is this: When it comes to book burnings, since there’s no harm done to anyone and no call to harming anyone either, the freedom of expression should be given priority

Those on the opposite side would disagree. There is harm being done. not all harm is physical.

This would be different if there was something harmful being done or incited,

The act of burning it is incitement.

but the only things that really are in danger here are books and the only people taking offense with that are people who think specific objects should be treated as more than a book by everyone in- and outside of their religion.

As mentioned many times. You are not allowed to burn flags of forgein nations.

You can use the exact same arguments. It's just cloth that's in danger. Only people of that nation is taking offense. why should everyone outside of their country have to care about their flag?

Why should their sensitivity triumph that of my right to burn flags?

In this case. We already have a standard that is so similar to what is happening.

a flag is a symbol for a group of people. so is the quran.