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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They going get her removed get the case dropped our moved to federal court were he can be pardon or pardon himself.

The Republican party should just change it name to the fascist party because they don't believe they should be punished for any crimes they commit.

And fucking set on their hands Democrats are going let it happen with little push back.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're pretty wrong here.

If any defendants have their cases removed to federal court, that does not change the nature of the charges. They're still state charges, and follow the pardon rules of the State of Georgia. These charges cannot be pardoned by any POTUS.

Based on the statements by Judge Chutkan, and the setting of an October 23rd trial date for Chesebro (and likely Powell), this is moving forward very quickly, and with appropriate "push back."

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason for pushing for fast trials is to help the RICO case. Having convictions for Trumps minions sets the stage to prove that a criminal organization exists.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was Chesebro who put in for a speedy trial. And then Powell followed with a copy and paste, not even changing the pronoun gender. She's going on Oct 23rd, too, mark my words.

So yeah, we get to find out all about the criminal conspiracy way sooner than anyone expected. So why did Chesebro and Powell volunteer to go early?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't pardons require admitting guilt?

And in this case, admitting guilt should disqualify him from being president, if the constitution was followed.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

No. There is some legal theorizing that it does, and there have been people who refused pardons because they didn't want the appearance of accepting guilt. But legally speaking, accepting the pardon wouldn't change anything about the situation.

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

A good point I had not yet seen expressed!

[–] mephiska@artemis.camp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, even if it gets moved to federal court, these are still state charges and not pardonable by the president.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But Trump and co are to dumb to know that.