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I’ve been programming for decades, though usually for myself, not as a profession. My current go-to language is Python, but I’m thinking of learning either Swift (I’m currently on the Apple ecosystem), or Rust. Which one do you think will be the best in terms of machine learning support in a couple of years and how easy is it to build MacOS/ iOS apps on Rust?

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[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tricky part isn’t the syntax, it's the domain knowledge. Well, actually it's syntax, too. Swift has a whole lot of things that aren’t like anything else with sprinkles of Objective-C. Rust turns the common patterns upside down because they make borrow checker sad. But, in the end, what makes you a good engineer is knowing how to apply the tool to solve the problem and that goes well beyond syntax.

Programming languages are like different kinds of saws: all of them are made to cut things, but there are nuances. Some are replaceable, others can be used for one specific thing. Knowing how to operate a hacksaw gives you some idea how a chainsaw would work even though they are fundamentally different. But tinkle it this way: what are you trying to do? Answering that will tell you which saw you need to use.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm trying to work out which one will have better for ML in a couple of years time.

[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’think rust has any specific features that target ML. Swift does, but it's Apple hardware only.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the things that I'm struggling with on Python is the very poor support for AMD GPU's, which are in Macs. I'm sure Swift will do a better job of using the hardware capabilities better.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Only old Macs have AMD GPUs.

[–] seeaya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you’re looking for the best utilization of your hardware, I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple’s ML frameworks were best. Since Apple has a small set of hardware, they can write software that takes advantage of it better. Consider looking into Core ML which is by Apple and for Swift. Of course this will only work for Apple hardware, but if this is just for personal interest/hobby then that doesn’t really matter.