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[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

My biggest thing is that they make people pay more attention. I dont think better drivers drive stick, i think the stick makes YOU a better driver.

Less eating, drinking, phone holding, texting etc. You have to know speeds and rpms for which gears. It keeps me from speeding knowing this street is a 4th gear street. When i end up driving a auto car, i will often loook down and wonder how i got to the speed i am at, though that may also be due to the fact its not my car and im just not used to the sensation of speed.

On another note, i think on average manual trans are less prone to failure. I know alot of cars that have essentially been junked due to an auto trans problem, but a manual just needs a new clutch every one and a while. Though this might be less common on newer cars compared to 90's and early 2000's cars.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And with the rise of EVs auto transmission failures will be a thing of the past. Except for the few sports EVs that for some reason have a multiple gears.

[–] DarienGS@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think the stick makes YOU a better driver.

It doesn't make me a better driver, it's a continual distraction. I recently switched from a manual to an automatic car and I now have far more available headspace to pay attention to the world around me.

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just never properly learned it then.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh so if you are a professional juggler it would be completely valid if you keep juggling all the time while driving? Dont think the police will see 'you just dont know how to juggle as well as I do' as an excuse if they stop you.

Also what about eating, drinking, talking on the phone while driving? Obviously those are only distractions if you havent properly learned to eat or talk, right? Shifting is a distraction, period. It gets less distracting the more you are used to it but it is never zero. There is absolutely no reason to shift manually nowadays (except for racing obviously).

[–] Summzashi@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

What an incredibly stupid take, none of these things have anything to do with the behavior of your car. You sound like somebody that can't accept their own shortcomings and instead wants the world to change according to them. Or you're mentally challenged. Either way, there's no point in talking to you.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

i think on average manual trans are less prone to failure.

As far as I'm aware this is still true. They're also significantly cheaper to repair/replace if need be.

[–] Mlemm@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is a very astute answer, I like it

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

For speed control I wish every car had easy to use cruise control and speed limiting, I hate having to constantly worry I've crept above the limit and will get a ticket especially on long boring roads littered with speed cameras.

Imagine just being able to concentrate on what's around you and where you're going without needing to be endlessly worrying about engine revs, speed enforcement, and the potential cost of getting either wrong.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont understand how constantly having to (partially ofc) focus on shifting could get you more focused on actually driving. If anything, it takes away your attention from the road.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Shifting is just part of driving. It means you have to pay attention to speed, Rpm, and braking points. It just makes driving more engaging, which reduces distraction. It doesnt make driving easier. If anything it makes it harder. But the benefit is that it reduces complacency.

When i am driving. I am driving. Im not doing makeup, eating, messing with the radio, texting etc. Part of that is driving stick. It keeps you engaged in driving. Thats not to say its impossible to be a distracted driver in a manual, just that its easier to get distracted in an auto.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is definitely NOT part of driving as it is not required, obviously. Dont confuse 'a method used for driving' with driving itself. If in the past cars were made so that you are driving upside down, people like you would argue using the exact same words. 'its part of it', 'its harder so you focus more', etc. It makes zero sense to keep an outdated distraction for the fictional benefit of reducing other distractions. The missing stick doesnt make people eat or use their phones while driving, thats what bad drivers have been doing for decades. People that care about safety try to minimize distractions, which includes shifting without doubt. You are free to use the stick, it is not banned yet and is not as big of a distration as others (mainly because of hundreds of hours of practice), but you cannot argue that it is not a distraction at all.