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edited the heading of the question. I think most of us here are reasoning why more people are not using firefox (because it was the initial question), but none of that explains why it's actively losing marketshare.

I don't agree ideologically with Firefox management and am somewhat of a semi-conservative (and my previous posts might testify to that), I think Firefox browser is absolutely amazing! It's beautiful and it just feels good. It has awesome features like containers. It's better for privacy than any mainstream browser out there (even counting Brave here) and it has great integration between PC and Phone. It's open-source (unlike Chrome) and it supports a good chunk of extensions you would need.

This was about PC, but I believe even for Mobiles it looks great and it allows features like extensions (and I hear desktop extensions are coming to firefox android?), it's just a great ecosystem and it's available everywhere unlike most FOSS softwares.

So why is Firefox's market share dying?

I mean, I have a few ideas why it might be, maybe correct me I guess?

  1. Most people don't know how to use extensions well and how to use Firefox well. (Most of my friends in their 30's still live without ad blockers, so I don't think many are educated here)
  2. It's just not as fast as Chrome or Brave. I can't deny this, but despite of this, I find it's worthy.
  3. It's not the default.
  4. Many features which are Google specific aren't supported.
  5. Many websites are just not supporting firefox anymore (looking at you snapchat), but you would be right in saying this is the effect of Firefox losing it's market share not the cause (at least for now) and you would be right.

But what else?

I might take time (a lot of it) to get back at you, thanks for understanding.

occasionally I’ll find websites that don’t work 100% because they were coded primarily for chromium based browsers. FU Google

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[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox lost it's shares to normies because it was bad. Then it lost shares of tinkers because it moved extension, user agent and so on to chromium. Small market shares means developers don't give a damn about testing on firefox. Firefox doesn't show correctly pages and has no good support for pwa, microsoft teams etc. Chromium invents new things wich only edge and chrome have/support. Normies use browser wich just work out of the box for work and pleasure. It's a circle. You can tinker with your niche browser but massed decides what is what. Chrome/Edge are just better for every day use. Simple as that.*

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God, all of this is just incorrect.

[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just live in your fantasy world. Go outside sometimes and see what people really use. They don't use firefox for a reason.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I live in a fantasy world because I use a far superior browser that also doesn't track me.

And so can everyone. Nothing to be mad or weird about.

[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah yeah. Mr robot experiment, broken extensions, pocket, telemetry build in but not opt in, user data collecting. I don't even talk about pushing shitty propaganda on their browser and blog to lock internet freedom. Also incompetence of mozilla as organization. Big pay of to director then browser is in shittiest position ever. Mozilla director photo on instagram with middle finger up gor users who don't like her. Even more things just google them yourself. You just don't want to see them. You must be crazy standing for them for free. Maybe you're one of them. At least here you can't ban comment you don't like... kinda yet. Because reddit subreddit does that because they don't like truth.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok you're a wack job, makes sense now.

To say you're gargling the Google boot is an understatement

[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So no arguments? I don't even use chrome or edge...

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet you still choke on the boot. No I don't have reason to argue with a conspiracy weirdo

[–] 9up999@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you don't have arguments. Where do you see conspiracy? It's known facts on the internet found by others.

Can't hear you over the choking sounds