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edited the heading of the question. I think most of us here are reasoning why more people are not using firefox (because it was the initial question), but none of that explains why it's actively losing marketshare.

I don't agree ideologically with Firefox management and am somewhat of a semi-conservative (and my previous posts might testify to that), I think Firefox browser is absolutely amazing! It's beautiful and it just feels good. It has awesome features like containers. It's better for privacy than any mainstream browser out there (even counting Brave here) and it has great integration between PC and Phone. It's open-source (unlike Chrome) and it supports a good chunk of extensions you would need.

This was about PC, but I believe even for Mobiles it looks great and it allows features like extensions (and I hear desktop extensions are coming to firefox android?), it's just a great ecosystem and it's available everywhere unlike most FOSS softwares.

So why is Firefox's market share dying?

I mean, I have a few ideas why it might be, maybe correct me I guess?

  1. Most people don't know how to use extensions well and how to use Firefox well. (Most of my friends in their 30's still live without ad blockers, so I don't think many are educated here)
  2. It's just not as fast as Chrome or Brave. I can't deny this, but despite of this, I find it's worthy.
  3. It's not the default.
  4. Many features which are Google specific aren't supported.
  5. Many websites are just not supporting firefox anymore (looking at you snapchat), but you would be right in saying this is the effect of Firefox losing it's market share not the cause (at least for now) and you would be right.

But what else?

I might take time (a lot of it) to get back at you, thanks for understanding.

occasionally I’ll find websites that don’t work 100% because they were coded primarily for chromium based browsers. FU Google

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[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All browsers have extensions, even Safari. This has nothing to do with FF particularly

Some people not using Firefox might use it if they understood some of the great extensions for FF which are unique to it. Like the Containers one.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

people who don't use extensions due to lack of knowledge about them probably wouldn't care if they knew about them either

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not actually necessarily true. I just recently learned about the Firefox container extension which is a game changer I didn't know about

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, I guarantee if someone never cared about extensions and didn't even install uBlock, then Containers is an abstract concept to them.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am an example of this person you assert couldn't exist. That's what I'm pointing out. Not sure how that's not getting across.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you were unaware of extensions?

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I knew about extensions but not a specific one that was a game changer for me.

My point was even though I knew about extensions, I didn't use Firefox on mobile until I found out about some extensions I didn't know existed on mobile, and on desktop, had I not been using FF before learning about containers, I may have switched at that moment when I found out

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 0 points 1 year ago

Exactly, you proved my point. You knew about extensions and enjoyed learning about Containers. most people aren't like you though: they don't care about extensions, they use their computer once a month, they don't bother installing uBlock and have no need for Containers.