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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ok .thats apparently a controversial opinion but....why does that matter. Usb2.0 is still fairly fast connection ,i doubt it will impact anyone, unless someone dumps a lot of data on iphones for....some reason,honestly i am not sure in what scenraio you would move a lot of data very often from phone to pc or reversed. Its not a headphone jack scenario where they took a capability from a phone. You still can send data through cable.it will just take a minute instead of 10 s.

[–] MrWhale@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to do local backups via iTunes or transfer multiple large video files then USB 2.0 speeds are horrendously slow. I do both of these fairly regularly.

Luckily I can transfer videos over wifi, which is much faster than USB 2.0 speed (but still slower than transferring over USB 3.1, which I can do with an android). Backing up my phone requires I leave it there nearly all day because the transfer speeds are so slow and doing wireless backups via iTunes on Windows is broken.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.lt 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What? USB 2.0 is 480mbps. Much faster than most wifi routers (you need non-cheap 2x2 (i think) antenna to get >300mbps speeds on routers in ideal conditions).

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm connected to my WiFi 5 router right now at 702 Mbps. With WiFi 6 you can get significantly faster speeds.

USB 2.0 speeds are horrible for modern wired connections and equipment, and that 480 Mbps is theoretical max, not what you'll actually experience on the wire.

[–] MrWhale@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s fair, fortunately I have a good AP.

Still though, with iPhones being as expensive as they are and their cameras being able to save some large photos/videos, it’s silly that it has to transfer them at such slow speeds.

Having actually read the article now, I am at least glad the pro might support higher speeds.

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I mean with 400 Mbps its still like 3 seconda per gigabit/byte( not realy sure which one usb speed is mesured ) . Its possible that its the internal storage speed thats the limiting factor ( or the itune app on Windows ) if its that slow.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't remember the last time I actually used a usb port to transfer data.

External drives and sometimes adb are the only time when I'd even connect via USB

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Macbooks literally run their entire peripheral ecosystem through USBC.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do external displays and docks count?

On phones and tablets, I usually go for wired connections for video because I'm almost always doing it while traveling, where wireless options either will never work or have some PITA yak shaving setup required before they do. If you can plug in an HDMI cable, you know that it will work.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

They count, but you won't be affected by any speed issues

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Do they need usb 3.0 speeds tho?

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't do it often, but when I need to I don't want to fuck around. Spent an afternoon just a few weeks ago reinstalling star wars kotor and a few hundred mods on the android port. That would have been even more annoying trying to transfer the mods wirelessly

[–] exohuman@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why tho? They are going out of their way to make the data transfer slower just to artificially weaken the offering so the Pro looks better. It is anti-consumer and malicious.

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Its probably just cheaper. Honestly i am not sure how many pepole there are that usb 3.0 speeds are even a consideration when buying a phone. I honestly dont know how it works on iphones but i know many androids dont have usb 3.0 also. In fact ive rarely even seen usb speeds mentioned anywhere . I know my phone has usb 3.0 but i have ridicolously overspeced asus rog phone( which has 2 USB c one 3.0 and one 2.0 port and that's probably the only reason they even mentioned it )

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The intent behind doing it matters. There's no legitimate reason to throttle the product other than self-serving interests on their part that negatively affect customers. It's not like USB-C or USB 3.0 are new technology. USB 3.0 came out months after the first iPhone was released, and USB-C came out when the iPhone 6 hit the market. Remember these aren't $20 portable hard drives they're $1000-$1500 "premium" devices.