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[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In your discussions about Islam, do you confine your criticism to Islam as a religion, or do you branch off into the political and social roles that Islam plays and their negative contributions towards human development (sorry if I am making assumptions)?

If it is the latter, it is an incomplete picture unless you talk about how what we now consider the Muslim world was pushed into being such through the systemic disassembly of moderate Islam and secular third world movements because they were seen as less disruptive to the international order than the potentially Soviet-aligned movements? The Islamic Republic in Iran didn’t come out of nowhere, after all. You’re not talking about Islam per se at that point, but a forced move of political radicalization that was looking for any carrier it could use.

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In your discussions about Islam, do you confine your criticism to Islam as a religion, or do you branch off into the political and social roles that Islam plays and their negative contributions towards human development (sorry if I am making assumptions)?

This depends on who I'm talking to. I don't usually steer the debate towards politics my self because I don't feel like I'm well enough informed about foreign politics to start that particular debate. However one of my friends with whom I often have deep discussions is from Iran, and he loves debating the political side of what is going on there lately, so when I'm talking to him, the political and social roles of Islam is regularly touched upon. If I'm talking to someone who doesn't have a greater knowledge of the political side than I do, I try to keep it about the religion. If I'm going to debate something I know little or nothing about, I prefer if the other person does know something about it, so they can correct me if I make dumb assumptions because of my ignorance, and so I can learn a bit more and hopefully become less ignorant with time.

Edit: a word