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to preface: as much as the title sounds like a critique, it's not. it's just a realization i had while thinking about baldur's gate 3, and it's good they provided the options they did, for me to have this realization in the first place

i'm a transgender man, and i've been on hrt for several years, i haven't had bottom surgery, and i'm intimately familiar with the effects testosterone has on a vulva. i've also been in trans femme circles long enough to know how estrogen affects a penis (if you are unfamiliar, you can read about each at https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/second-puberty-masc#genital-changes and https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/second-puberty-fem#genital-changes)

and it's really weird to realize that most people cannot visualize what i have going on in my pants. a cis woman's vulva is fundamentally not accurate (which is basically what's presented as your option). for me, obviously; for some trans masc people, it is accurate

i don't know how trans femme people feel, but i could see the argument for them going either way. i'd like to hear what you think, if you feel represented by feminine body shapes with a penis selected as your genitals

and also, it would be interesting to see bottom surgery options represented. even if that's just the same models but with the "is this from surgery" option ticked or something

finally. my concluding thoughts are that i'd really like to see how big a half-orc's tdick gets (presuming that half-orcs are subject to the same sex hormones humans are and/or that they can substitute their hormones similarly. i mean that's it's own can of worms there)

i know i'm not ending off on any kind of a question but i wanted to share my feelings about this with people and hear how this made others feel, as well

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There are good reasons for gender representation. That being said, often, like in CP2077, it's to stir controversy for marketing.

[–] Juno@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You wouldn't say that if it was you not being represented.

There's sex scenes in the game. I want a character to look like me. It's only controversial to uptight folk.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You wouldn't say that if it was you not being represented.

I'm all about representation and I don't think that it was an incorrect choice to have in the character creation, on its face. However, you don't ever see your character's genitals after creation, even in the sex scenes, from my recollection.

It's only controversial to uptight folk.

That is what I think was the point and what I meant. Uptight folk are loud about being offended by "naughty" things. Adding explicit content in the character creation that has no material effect elsewhere is fairly low-effort and does have a positive effect for some. But, it outages the most annoyingly vocal group who shriek "think of the children". So, more people heard about the game due to the few publicity.

Can't really fault them as they did something positive for representation but, if it had a material impact on gameplay or story, it would be much better.

[–] Lexicon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You can take off all your clothes and run around nude if you so desire. So you can definitely see them, if you make that choice.

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