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[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 148 points 1 year ago (59 children)

It's like every time there's a war everybody forgets how fucking long they take. WW2 took six years. The Vietnam War took almost 20 years, same with the Afghanistan War. Anybody expecting anything solid within the next couple years is delusional. Ukraine is in it for the long haul.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not strictly true. On the short end, there was the six-day war. On the long end, there was the hundred years' war.

Putin was clearly aiming for the short option, but then I suppose most belligerents usually are.

[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd actually love to see a graph that shows the distribution of lengths of various wars

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[–] threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Anglo-Zanzibar War lasted less than an hour

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

'Gunboat diplomacy' isn't very diplomatic.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude took the low end and said "fuck that we'll do it twice as fast."

The good news is I don't think Russia can continue to sustain these kind of losses for 199 more years.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Neither can Ukraine..

[–] ours@lemmy.film 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Russia expected their little venture to be done in days.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was never supposed to turn into a real war. They wanted to assassinate Zelenskyy put some Russian plant in as president, annex some more land and call it a night. Obviously Zelenskyy survived and the rest is history.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"No plan survives first contact with the enemy"

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

“Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Frontlines were actually moving, especially in the Eastern Front. Not so much in China and the Pacific, though.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

We can hope Putin dies from being an old fuck and Russia gives up

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That's because it isn't really about any particular military objective, it's about creating business for the war industry.

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