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[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Some people clearly prefer e-scooters over bicycles, otherwise they would not have been successful so far.

Parking for e-scooters isn't "a lot of infrastructure" when in the space of just one car you can park, say, 8 e-scooters? If we are going to be so particular about the downsides of e-scooters then we also need to take a hard look at the immense externalities of cars, from on-street parking to street noise and road maintenance costs.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

How much of that preference is expressly because they don't need to be parked, which residents are increasingly finding intolerable?

Remove that, and I don't really see the benefit over just investing more money in expanding bikes. By all means, absolutely do take more space from cars though. They're a blight.

You could try to mandate parking them is designated zones that are currently used for automobile parking, though I do wonder how effective enforcement would really be.

[-] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mandated parking zones are very effective because you can't really end the trip if you're not on a parking zone, meaning that you keep getting charged until you park it in a parking zone.

Here you could leave the scooters anywhere for about a year, and it was nice because I could take one right to my doorstep - but my neighbours took them inside their house, and there were scooters everywhere taking up sidewalks. Around a year ago, it changed and now there are predefined parking spaces, around 50m or 100m from each other. I haven't seen "abandoned" scooters outside of parking spaces for a few months now, and a lot of people still use then anyway.

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