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OK so if you feel Lemmy has been trending towards hostility in the past weeks ppease here me out, interact in the comments but keep it civil.

Lemmy vs Reddit

We all had our reasons to move to Lemmy. What I remember clearly from the beginning of the summer was that we were all praising the tone. Over the years, Reddit has become increasingly toxic - most of all in the comment section. To me, that was what made Lemmy special. Even with less content, the general vobe was what made me come back every time.

clash of the clans

Due to the nature of the fediverse, we get to interact with people with different backgrounds and dofferent ideas. Potentially an incredibly enriching experience for everyone. Anti-defed lemmings defend staying federated with everyone for that precise reason, which I really get. But lately the vibe has turned sour. Every post that has the slightest political undertone becomes this big us-vs-them show. Please stop

discussion vs. shitshow

I am not arguing for stopping discussing our opinions. I also get the whole they don’t have downvotes thing. But can we please treat eachother with dignity, and when writing comments say ‘I believe’ or ‘in my opinion’ instead of ‘you all this or that’?

I think this is the only way forward if we want to prevent everyone from personally blocking a lot of instances in the furure.

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[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always avoid communities related to politics because of that reason. There are other reasons, like a big focus on US politics or being feed with politics 24 hours per day every day.

But I noticed an increasing amount of hostility in other communities as well, not related directly to politics. For example, in those communities about Ukraine, there is always the usual tankie spreading strong words and what not. Or when there is a post about defederating certain instance, it seems that people take it personally and swear words are easily launched.

People can say the same things in a good way, being nice and polite. There is no need to troll or make others feel shitty. It also depends on what instance you're on, but for the most part, it's on us how we want this to become into: either a civil place to discuss everything, or Reddit 2.0.

[–] Ubermeisters@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Swear words are just different words, they hold no additional power I don't know why people are acting like they change anything. Fuck.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I didn't write correctly what I meant. I meant calling someone names, like "you're this" or "you're that", just because you have a different opinion than mine.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like adding swear words usually changes the tone. For example, "shut the fuck up!" sounds more aggressive than just "shut up!".

[–] Ubermeisters@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Aggression =/= power

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard to avoid it when the morons brigade every post.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I've only seen brigades from hexbear on other instances I don't belong, but I understand that it's a thing we need to deal with, using proper and more effective moderation tools. Defederation can also be a solution, temporary in this case, until the admins of that instance control, somehow, the brigaders so they stop brigading.

I mean, I can behave in any way I want in my own house, because it's my own house. But when I'm in someone else's house, I never think about behaving in that same way, unless I want to face consequences, even before a court of justice. Instances are like houses, and communities are like rooms, and you have to follow the rules of the place you're interacting on.