Contrarian? Hardly. I’m just aware that Western Europe and the USA have their own agendas, engage in propagandizing their own citizens, to greater or lesser extent. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous. Notice how lacked the behavior, not the person, without knowing more? Try out sometime.

[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

So trying to frame this as "which is worse" is just a bad argument.

Put some effort into proving your position.

You also seem pretty condescending, why should people respect you if you don't respect them?