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[–] Stamets@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This conversation is exhausting. You keep ignoring half of what I'm saying and then making points that you assume I'll just agree with. I'll respond to this comment and then I'm done with this discussion.

I think we can agree that this was not a unprovoked or reckless action. It was provoked by the Marquis use of cloaked missiles armed with biogenic (Genocidal?) weapons, in addition to Eddington’s betrayal, theft and sabotage. It was not reckless because this was all leading up to the dominion war. This is after the first adversarial conflict with the dominion, and getting the Cardassians as an ally would undoubtedly be more beneficial than an alliance with the ragtag Maquis. Though I am curious if you believe otherwise.

First off, a weapon that is designed to kill an entire group of people? That's genocidal. The people were given time to leave, sure, but if they didn't? They're all dead. That's genocide.

This is what I mean by you making assumptions I'll disagree with. "I think we can agree this was not an unproved or reckless action." Dude, my entire comment chain so far has been me saying that Sisko has been so wildly influenced by his emotions that he couldn't think straight. You're then going to say that I am not going to agree it was provoked or reckless? Unprovoked, maybe not, but reckless? Absolutely. Again, Sisko endangered his crew by putting them in a vessel that was not fit for service. It was damaged and beyond repair in a short time frame. They had to resort to literally yelling down the hall at each other, using a Ferengi, to make sure that departments could hear each other. That is the definition of reckless.

The rest of your comment is just predicated on you making an assumption of what I'll agree with. All of is wrong. I've stated my point here numerous times and I'd be glad to have a conversation about it. However I would also like to have a conversation where the other person in it is listening to me and not ignoring half of what I'm saying.

Take care and I wish you the best but I'm out and not continuing this any further.

[–] PurpleCat@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry this was exhausting, I was just trying to have a fun argument about one of my favorite controversial episodes.

You say you've done, but kept arguing as well so it's not exactly clear what you want.

If there is something I ignored and you want to continue, we can. If not, live long and prosper 🖖