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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But instead of a population of 100 with small houses you will get a population of 1000 because they built 10 apartment complexes. I think I'd prefer the small houses didn't have lawns and left the nice trees and natural growth.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The point is for any given population size, a city is a better way to house them. Though IMO this drawing makes the difference too stark. Personally i think the optimal is a medium-highish density city of separated buildings with nature interspersed, rather than a single super high density mega block building.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the image is really just for illustrative purposes. Imo, if we just abolish restrictive zoning codes and other land use restrictions that essentially mandate sprawl, then tax carbon appropriately and build good public transit, that would likely achieve the overall "optimal" outcome. No need for a mega-arcology, but no need for government-mandated car-dependent sprawl either.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And fuck the 900 poor people, they can live in the fucking sea where they won't bother me.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's more like we wouldn't birth 900 more people because the density of livable space doesn't allow it.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. They would just be birthed elsewhere. It has yet to be seen if we can hit a global population cap. It seems like it has to be reached eventually.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

There is a population cap but it's societal, people have fewer children as they get more education and higher quality of life.

Which is the solution that conservatives don't want to acknowledge, if you think overpopulation is a problem then you solve it by making people not live in such abject misery that they need 6 kids to make sure enough of them survive to take care of their parents when they grow old.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how anything works

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are in a hypothetical plot of tiny land that can be thought of as the entire world. If you have an argument to make based on this rather silly hypothetical world we are talking about then feel free to make it.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Chewbacca defense. Nice.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

So those 900 people live where? In the sea?