I'd like to start a discussion about TV privacy in 2023. I've never been interested in having a TV, but recently I was thinking of getting one. Looking into it, the privacy implications seem horrible. All the major brands seem to have cameras, microphones, and content recognition software. I can't believe how dystopian it is.
I also notice that most of the articles about this are from a few years ago. Are things better now? Do they still collect an Orwellian amount of data?
As I understand it, there are a few mitigation options:
- Leave it disconnected from the internet and use a separate device for streaming. But it sounds like some brands have incessant nag screens, or disable features until connected to the internet. I was looking into the Samsung Frame TV, but I'm not even sure you can use the art mode without internet. Does anyone know?
- Pi-hole set up with a blocklist. It's disheartening that such a technical solution would be necessary.
- Get a commercial "dumb" display. These are more expensive, and usually thicker.
- Go through the menu and disable privacy violating settings. Does this work? I'm doubtful.
edit: Just to be clear, I am NOT talking about the normal sort of ad tracking that happens when you use streaming services. Netflix knows what you’re watching regardless of what device you use. I’m talking about stuff like a hidden camera recording your facial reactions, microphones recording your private conversations, and screen recording of your viewing activities. This is sci-fi dystopia level creepy.
It’s still just as bad. We leave ours disconnected from the internet, but a quick note here: I’ve heard of some tv’s auto-connecting to open WiFi networks if available (though ours does not and nobody near us has an open WiFi network). We just have a very generic Hisense tv from 2019 I think
just wait until "5g" network slicing becomes more of a thing, soon you'll see all these manufacturers putting UE chipsets in them to bypass end user wifi completely... that's really what the commercial IoT vision has been about all along, big data => dangerous (🎵 cool 'indie' music plays 🎵)
Wow that’s another level of deceptive. Do you know if the major brands like Samsung, LG, and Sony do things like that? Or are they all equally shitty at this point?
I thought my tv did this. Can anyone confirn if this actually was caught?
Couldn't you just create a hotspot that has no internet connection and log what connects to it? And if something does you could unplug your TV and see if it disconnected.