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[–] Skates@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The US has about 10 million square kilometers

That's 10 million x 1 million square meters (10^13 )

There will soon be (source: people like sex) 10 billion people on earth (10^10 )

This would give you 10^13 / 10^10 = 10^3 square meters (10700 square feet) of land for everyone on earth to live on. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. Not families, individual fucking people.

All of them contained within the US.

10700 square feet to build a house, have a small garden etc. Okay, not a lot. But that's one country that could house everyone. An extreme example of course - you're not gonna be able to use all that land, some of it is uninhabitable (red states lol). But just imagine it for a second, everyone living in one country would still be comfortable. And look how much is left of the rest of the world.

1000 square meters isn't enough space? Make your house have 4 stories, who gives a shit, make your own wizard tower. In a relationship? That's 21400 square feet for the couple. Have a couple of kids? 42800 square feet. That's a decent enough house+yard for 4 people, especially if you add one or two floors.

The problem is not that there isn't enough space. The problem is that some motherfuckers want and get more than their share of square feet. And then they charge you money to live in their share of land without owning it.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your premise is wrong. You need to start with total buildable area, not the boundary size. And when you evaluate for buildable area take into account critical areas such as wetlands, flood zones etc.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

And keep in mind where the jobs are. Nobody wants to commute 2 hours to work.

[–] agarorn@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

And you need places for other things, such really unimportant ones, as growing food for example.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You forgot that there's not only humans on earth.

Biodiversity is in free fall, not only because of climate.

[–] kaj@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. If you're concerned with land use, start by going vegan!

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Almost Vegan is good enough for me.

[–] sznio@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Now connect all these people to water, sewage, roads and power.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You would need to travel like 5 miles to get anywhere at minimum... meaning you would need a car. And that is the opposite point of this entire sub