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If the descentralization of social networks continue, we will have to prepare for the eventual rise of the instances wars, where people will start to fight about which instance is better and which one is weird to be in and so on, but that's for the future of us all.

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[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think these problems might be solvable with auto blacklisting instances based on their age, how their users behave and what % of comments and posts of them are flagged as spam

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How would an instance grow if it's auto blacklisted by everyone? Doesn't make sense

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

One thing that is feasible is for established instances to give votes from new instances a lower weight. So, no blacklisting, but until they have been around for a little while to be able to calculate that their activity corresponds to their size and that nothing is off, upvotes and dowvotes could be ignored or given a lower weight.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thats the problem. It would be very difficult to get a new instance off the ground unless you were an insider or had inside connections. If you have a cabal of existing admins acting as gate keepers you could keep outsiders from abusing the system easily, but you are also walking right back into the centralized control federation is supposed to prevent.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Welcome back to IRC. :)

Well non-federated forums can grow by word of mouth and similar. Being federated does lower the barrier of entry for interacting but it's still possible to visit the instance the old fashioned way. You probably still need to rely mostly on word of mouth anyway, even if you are federated.

[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, age alone shouldn't lead to getting blacklisted. But if an instance is two days old, already 50+ accounts from there were banned on your instance for being bots and besides that there was no real contributions coming from that place, this might be a candidate for auto-blacklisting.