1331
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2023
1331 points (99.0% liked)
News
23310 readers
3674 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Hilarious. But, probably won't last that long in prison. Sex offender and all.
It's not how you think. For starters not many inmates will risk adding several more years to their sentence for assaulting a sex offender. Most people in prison want to go home. He'll be fine as long as he keeps to himself or stays with other sex offenders. Also, before someone starts their fantasies, prison rape is not common. Prison Rape Elimination Act ended most of that. The type of sex offenders who do get assaulted in prison generally ask for it. Their specific offense plays a factor but its usually because they're annoying as hell, keep pushing boundaries with other inmates, actually it's mostly because they push boundaries.
Depends on where you end up, too. There are a bare handful of prisons full of and geared towards rehabbing sex offenders, though none of those are where he's going. And low security in general, sure, they're apt to mostly ostracize them rather than risk extending their own sentence. High security, you're gonna want to go into protective custody as quickly as possible or gamble on whether or not your skull is ventilated.
Protective custody was where Masterson was being held back in June anyway while awaiting a verdict. I see no real reason he'd be moved out of it, so I'm sure he'll mostly be bored.
This REALLY varies. The majority of prisons do not tack on time for in prison fights. Unless they near kill or maim him, they're fine whooping his ass and taking a week in the hole as that's all they'll get.
I will have to disagree. When you are in prison you are in the custody of the state (state or federal). If the state just knowingly allows you to be at risk by placing you in a dangerous situation then they become liable. It would then become cruel and unusual punishment. No one is sentence to continuous assaults for decades. The prison can and will be sued and it could raise a constitutional issue. If prisons just allowed whatever to happen then PREA would not be a thing.
As someone who was in prison, sex stuff is usually agreed to. Fights do happen a lot but it's usually two people arguing or drug related. Punishments vary but it's usually not good so people don't want to fight unless they don't care. People do care about extra time. Everyone stays quiet anyway. People lie all the time about why they're in and unless you're annoying or in people's faces then you're usually safe. A sex offender might get shunned or treated like shit but not all the time and they are usually separated into other sex offenders. There are also A LOT of sex offenders so they often have a place or section of their own. I saw a lot of jokes and minor threats about rape but never saw anything in person, dudes did do stuff here and there but it was voluntary. It's not gay if you're in prison is what was said. If it's a high profile crime you might get some shit but you'll probably be separated anyway.
I mean you're free to disagree but I was a state corrections officer for over 6 years. I've seen what happens.
The rape elimination act ended most of that? Conservatively, between 1986 & 2006, as many as 1M inmates were documented to have been sexually assaulted.
I think you're projecting a bit on how you'd like to imagine prisons operate.
PREA is mostly an information gathering mechanism.
I'm not projecting anything. By law inmates cannot consent to sex so any sexual encounter is considered rape. This includes encounters between inmates and guards. Forced sexual encountered between inmates is not common anymore.
Also I do not have any experience with higher level federal facilities like Mediums or High security but I assume they are more vigilant.
They ask for it in prison? And that's the only ones who get assaulted, or sexed.. You know what this sounds like?
What I mean by the phrase, "They ask for it" is that they do things and push boundaries with other inmates that lead to the assault.
Example: I knew a guy who would always talk about his crime even after he was told to shut the fuck up about it. He was also proud of how he taught his young daughters how to give a bj. His cellies hated him, the cops hated him, most other sex offenders hated him because they wanted to move on and he wanted to stay back. He found his way into solitary.
You'd be right if they were minors - probably not in this case.
Not true at all. I won't say it's all Hollywood bullshit, but in most places not even the chomos are in danger.
he'll be kept in solitary.
At best, Masterson would have to "pay rent" if he were in a regular prison, but honestly he'll likely go to a rich white person prison where none of that applies. A prisoner would only get killed if he were a child molester.
Can you show me any actual evidence of these facilities, I keep hearing about them but never see any actual evidence they exist
https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/cohens-prison-reality-tennis-courts-cardio-machines-and-microwaves
The big difference between this place and Reddit is I would have been called an idiot for not believing it at face value, and here someone just drops a link
You wouldve gotten like a bajillion down votes as well.
I’m browsing on Voyager, which looks a lot like Apollo, discussions branch out down to the right. On reddit the further down and right you went in any given thread it was always mudslinging and downvotes, here it seems to be a lot more people actually talking to each other
And then shock and surprise that people are actually talking to each other instead of just either mindlessly agreeing or purging a different opinion. Don't folks know this is the internet, which is no place for actual discourse?
Oh there's still plenty of that. You must be one of those with the "popular" opinions.
How is this special (cushy) prison for rich and famous run by the federal govt justified? Do they try ?
I assume they're talking about white collar prisons which a sex offender would not be going to AFAIK. If they're just talking about some secret rich white people prison where violent offenders go when they have money, there isn't one. Rich people get off if their richness helps enough.