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Ukraine wants help to pressure Russia to return children (www.reuters.com)
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Ukraine's human rights commissioner has called for more international pressure on Moscow to help Kyiv bring home thousands of Ukrainian children who Kyiv says have been illegally taken to Russia during the war.

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[โ€“] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Just to counter the typical tankie argument, here's one shitty thing USA hasn't done, right?

[โ€“] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

I mean, not recently, but yeah. People trying to make the crimes of the USA and the crimes of Russia the same, especially in this conflict is silly. Also, even if it was the same, it still wouldn't be okay by any measure.

[โ€“] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We were doing this regularly as a matter of policy with illegal immigrants until...let me check my notes...the 2020's.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them

I don't support much of anything Russia has ever done, but this is not a point where we have any moral high ground over them whatsoever.

[โ€“] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was genuinely looking for information here, even if in a bit loaded way. Thanks.

[โ€“] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

They did it to the natives way back then. It also happened in Canada and Australia, it's a tried and true colonialist tactics.

[โ€“] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago

Well, no. Not unless you count slaves before the civil war, immigration camps during Trump or the Japanese internment camps in WW2.

[โ€“] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can always reframe it, I guess. Russia probably tells it like โ€œwe rescue children from a poor country run by Nazis and their parents who fight usโ€.

Similarly, the West: โ€œwe rescue children from t the ISIS regime and their terrorist parents who fight usโ€.

[โ€“] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similarly, the West: โ€œwe rescue children from t the ISIS regime and their terrorist parents who fight usโ€.

Did we actually do that?