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that cis people exist. Iβm trans and nonbinary, itβs genuinely bizarre to me that not everyone questions the gender assigned to them at birth by the government lol
Sorry you have two dinguses explaining gender to you lmao
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Wow the mods are amazing, they removed the comments before I even saw them.
yes frankly everyone should at least question it
A lot of people question it and just go "this is well enough for me". I've wondered about it plenty butI think for my (completely personal) purposes it would be hair-splitting at best to object to being called a guy because my body is my body and society is organized in a gender binary. I despise the social construction of gender, but I also dislike the English language and yet here I am using it to participate in society in a relatively frictionless way, and for me personally it's kind of the same thing.
I can totally see finding it weird as a nonbinary person how people can feel fine as a binary gender, cis or trans.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit, if it turned out that the most common gender ID is actually non-binary.
Like, my spouse and I pretty much consider ourselves "cis" but ... but not for any particular reason other than, "well, its good enough to get the point across." We don't really "feel" any particularly strong emotions about it.
I understand your perspective on questioning the gender assigned at birth, and it's a valid point of view. However, it's important to remember that the concept of gender is multifaceted, involving biological, social, and cultural elements that have existed long before modern governments. For a significant number of people, their gender identity aligns naturally with their biological sex and the societal roles they've been assigned. For these individuals, there may not be a pressing need to question their gender, as they feel a sense of congruence. The experience of gender is complex and varies from person to person, but it's not surprising that some people don't find it necessary to question their assigned roles.
Downvoting because of "by the government". Your biological sex is assigned by luck, depending on what chromosomes you get. Your gender on your birth certificate defaults to the way the "majority" of people are. But you're not the majority. No single person is the majority. In fact, the only trait we are certainly sharing with a majority of people is the fact that we're all unique (and the fact we're all human).
As a cis by default person it is weird to me when I talk to people and they have strong feelings about their gender. But if we were normal we wouldn't be posting on this part of the internet