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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This isn't hypocrisy or a double standard. Your argument is unironically "because America did bad things we must let bad things happen everywhere."

No one here is saying America smells like roses. Does that mean we can't try to do good? Must we stand idle and let Ukrainians die when we could help them?

[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

/u/sndmn@lemmy.ca

Russia can’t be accepted back into the international community

Veraticus

our argument is unironically “because America did bad things we must let bad things happen everywhere.”

NO, idiot (sorry, sometime, let's call a cat, a cat). Your "community" would have no sense and credibility as they still have one of the biggest warmonger at their table. This is not a stupid "whataboutism" argument that you are all blindly paroting! So sndmn@lemmy.ca's comment is stupid.

We, european, should not supply UA and follow USA's plan in their proxy war. We should instead really work on a diplomatic level. BUT by playing the stupid rats we are, Putin has not reason to listen.

No tankie, no Putin-sucker, i'm just plain rational and honest dude.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 0 points 1 year ago

No… you’re a tankie and Putin sucker 🙂

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who here said "we must let bad things happen"?

The commenter you replied to just mentioned that if we are outraged at Russia, we should be even more outraged at the US, and since a much longer time. But Ukraine and Russia are the only issues most hypocrites with double standards speak about. Say any criticism of the west and they lash out like is happening right here.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because criticism of the west is totally irrelevant to the question. It’s not even whataboutism; it’s absurdity. Even if the west is literally Satan incarnate, why does that mean we have to let Putin wage whatever war of aggression he desires?

The people who advance this argument are so anti-US they’ve become dictator simps. I think it’s good to shove the absurdity of their positions back in their faces.