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[-] hillbicks@feddit.de 58 points 1 year ago

Right, because 30°C in the middle of September is totally normal and in no way an indication that climate change is about to get completely out for control.

Let's just go to the beach, everything is fine and we don't have to change anything, let alone something that will inconvenience us.

Temperatures in September are already past 1,5 degree increase. We need to do something. Now.

Can I ask what your solution is?

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

pretty sure the Dutch don't have enough time left to not be underwater.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Not turning the public against climate action, for one. We still need political majorities if you want to get anything done.

Second, we had the solution in the 90s with nuclear power. Now it's inevitable that we will see 2,5-3 degrees warming, since renewables can't replace reliable sources of energy and the world isn't willing to de-industrialize. By not excluding nuclear power, net zero by 2050 is achievable. By excluding it, net zero will never be achieved.

We might de-industrialize our country, but industry will just move to countries that do have reliable energy infrastructure. Look at industry moving from Germany to the USA, for example.

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