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Zelensky dismisses compromise with Putin, pointing to Prigozhin’s death (www.cnn.com)
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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't lemmy.ca defed with Hexbear because someone called (in jest) for death to landlords while Canada experiences it's biggest housing crisis ever and rents are rising rapidly YoY solely because landlords, who otherwise deliver no intrinsic value in their position, found a way to make more money from the increased demand?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, that wasn't the reason and if it's the only one you can think of you have no idea how toxic and disgusting the hexbear community is. I hate landlords too but these people are really taking it so much further than joking about dead landlords.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And, as I recently got downvoted on lemmy.ca for pointing out, it's not (directly) due to landlords, there's just not enough houses built, and I can cite sources on that.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was one of the big reasons made in the post about Hexbear defed.

The other ones were nebulous concerns about Hexbear comments in other instances... Which, by definition, is the responsibility of those other instances.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea that you can't judge anyone by actions not in your personal instance is just such terminally online idiocy. Trolls always seem shocked that their behavior might actually follow them around rather than being conveniently compartmentalized so they can start their trolling fresh before burning out a new instance.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the instance's responsibility for policing it's own instance.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And defederation was the action that the instance decided to policy them. If users from that instance take up the majority of their moderation effort, taking into account that instance owners are volunteers and paying for the instance, it does not surprise me.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

But why would they? As discussed, very little content was posted on lemmy.ca (where the instance owners actually have moderation power) and of that, most of it was fairly tame.

"Death to landlords" is, while somewhat extreme, a sentiment that is shared by a lot of people in Vancouver and Toronto. These are cities that are facing a record housing and affordability crisis with no indication that the government will intervene.

Defederation based on political ideology seems, well, rather harmful to a healthy democracy... Which, given that lemmy.ca is supposed to represent Canadians, is rather harmful for Canada.