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Yeah because the only way to get to Scheveningen is to take that small piece of highway? How about any of the other ways leading into or around The Hague? They aren't blocking access to The Hague or Scheveningen, there isn't one singular road in or out.
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Don't pretend to speak for the rest of our country because you obviously don't and don't dramatize the blockage of a small section of 'highway' in the middle of a city as being a blockage of access to the entire city.
Source: Dutch news.
80% of people disagree with this action.
https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/panel/artikel/5406350/70-procent-wil-af-van-fossiele-subsidies-maar-nauwelijks-steun-voor
Don't be so confidently incorrect, it only proves how out of touch you are.
I would have to imagine there is some selection bias for RTL nieuws. These numbers would probably look different if the NOS or EenVandaag did the survey.
Most of the time, they use the same Ipsos panels. But yes, I agree that RTL is less reliable than NOS. It's also about spin.
NOS reported that Parliament is considering jail time for disrupting infrastructure and that the UK already has it. Amnesty was against, but a political majority is quite likely.
Source: am Dutch too. Can confirm. Listen to your own advice, you too are not talking for all of us.
Ook jij spreekt niet voor ons allemaal. Als dat zo was dan stonden er wel meer mensen op dat stuk weg, dan had die politie je niet weg gespoten.
Dit is niet de manier. Dit is gevaarlijk en dom.
I know I don't speak for everyone, that's why you didn't find a single opinion or generalization in my comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But if you want my opinion I think this is exactly the way they should be protesting right now. High visibility, on 'the doorstep' of the governmental buildings, non violent (unlike some other protests we've had lately by other groups) and only inconveniencing others.