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OpenAI confirms that AI writing detectors don’t work
(arstechnica.com)
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this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2023
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Aren't there very few student priced ai writers? And isn't the writing done on their servers? And aren't they saving all the outputs?
Can't the ai companies sell to schools the ability to check paper submissions against recent outputs?
Chatgpt 3.5 is free. Can't get more student priced than that.
Regarding the second part about outputs: that's not practical. Suppose you ignore students running their own LLMs offline on their gaming gpus, where these corps wouldn't have access to the info. It's still wildly impractical because students can paraphrase LLM output into something that doesn't look like the original output.
Yeah, my point was I don't think there are many offering the service for free. And they are probably looking for revenue streams.
I actually feel like this is the one that shouldn't be ignored. But I don't have a good sense of the computational power vs quality output.
At least doing that is likely to result in the student internalizing the information to some degree. It's also not so different (not at all different?) from the most benign academic dishonesty that existed when I was a student.
One issue with the approach I suggested is the copyright issue of profs submitting students' original work for AI processing without understanding/caring about copyright implications.
Yeah of course. As it stands right now gpt 3.5 is free, but gpt 4.0, which has been demonstrated to produce better output and get do more, costs a monthly subscription.
This is a good point, and I agree.