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Nextcloud alternatives (feddit.uk)

submitted 1 year ago by christophski@feddit.uk to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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So far my experience with Nextcloud has been that it is a pain in the arse to install, and once it's installed is slow as anything. Literally couldn't run it on my pi 3b, now got it up and running pretty nicely on a NUC but it's still not great. Have caching set up.

I have the notes app installed on my android phone and I can never used rich text editing because it gives timeout error.

This shouldn't be this complicated. All I want is to de-Google my documents and notes, and self-host my kanban. I don't really need the rest though it's nice to have the options.

Do people use alternatives? Am I doing something completely wrong? I set it up using nginx which I know is not supported, but the alternative using Docker AIO didn't allow me to use custom port easily.

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[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago. I'm running nextcloud in a VM - php recompiler, redis, mariadb, plenty of RAM (4GB). I'm spreading about 80GB of data across a few users, but it's dog slow on mass upload. If I wanted to upload 1000 images from my phone, it would hours. I moved those photos to my laptop, which was fast, then tried uploading them to nextcloud via the Ubuntu desktop sync app, and it still took almost 2 hours. Nextcloud is backed by RAID6 storage and benchmarks suggest it's over 300MB/sec write.

I think it has something to do with file transfer overhead (start stop) similar to FTP impacting WebDAV, but that's pure speculation on my part.

I was wondering what it would take to rewrite Nextcloud core functionality in Java and use some kind of different interface than WebDAV, but I've got a lot of irons in the fire at the moment.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

2 hours for uploading 1000 photos means it took 7.2s per photo upload. This is very slow, not sure if it's just webdav overhead. Does uploading large files also slow (e.g. way below your raw network speed)?

Could be related to this if you're still on an older version: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/33453

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

LAN is gigabit, and I can sustain Gb speeds in regular file transfers via mounted nfs shares. There isn't much difference over Wi-Fi (ubiquiti APs). Also running the latest Nc, 27.0.2.1 or whatever it is.