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[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

DMs, would you consider adding rogues/assasins as enemies against spellcaster who spam fireball? Or like a group of dwarfs with shield master? On one hand, it will encourage more variety in a future, on the other the spellcaster would feel bad that he cant do much in such a fight and would probably get killed quickly.

It doesnt feel right “punishing” a spellcaster who uses fireball as a solution to all his problems like that, right?

Edit: and make them tieflings as well…oh god…poor fireballers

[–] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a world full of magic, at a certain level casters with Counter spell will be necessary for the survival of certain groups. It's just logical

[–] gerusz@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shield master doesn't work against fireballs, it only works against single-target spells.

As for tieflings... well, a wizard with the elemental adept feat can just ignore fire resistance (and ensures that the minimum damage on the fireball is bumped to 16). Or a Scribes wizard can just have Spirit Shroud in their spellbook, cast necroball, and be done with it. Or a sorcerer with transmuted spell can use another elemental type too, though for them it costs SPs.

[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sure shield master doesnt work on fireball? The AC bonus to DEX save doesnt apply, but taking no damage on a succesful save should still apply, no?

[–] gerusz@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right, though they still have to make the save first. I recommend pairing it with a Ring of Evasion in that case. Though both the ring and the shield master feat use your reaction so even that is less than ideal.