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The Conservatives in Wales lose their last ditch attempt to stop the speed limit change from 30mph to 20mph. The change will be coming into force on the 17th September

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[–] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the limits are assigned so that pedestrians don't have to feel what it's like to be ran over

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they're not. The limits are assigned so politicians can pat themselves on the back and maybe score some votes. Sometimes also so some new speed trap locations can be created, catching people out in areas where the road feels like it has a higher speed limit (although this is perhaps less true for 20 zones).

If the goal was safety for pedestrians then a hell of a lot more should be done than just messing with the speed limit. Like, actually altering the road and including traffic calming measures - like the official recommendations for 20 limits state - and also providing ongoing training for drivers.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speed limit reductions are often unpopular.

This policy is clearly evidence based. Not playing politics. It's why the conservatives oppose it. They take contrarian positions to fuel outrage, that keeps people voting against their best interest.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's clearly not evidenced based, because the most recent evidence says that just slapping a 20 sign on a road built for 30 isn't good enough and leads to massive noncompliance.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

It's far better and I think far more effective to train competence in drivers.

[–] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You are right in the sense that they are popular, but only when compared to the idea of altering infrastructure because speedlimits cost less than building stuff

Increasing the speedlimit is way more popular, hell more people would probably want them removed altogether than decreased