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So Google, like Amazon, is trying to play the "they work for a subcontractor that only supports us, so it's their fault, not ours" card. I really want to see the NLRB smack this pattern down hard and set an example for all the other companies to try to avoid unionization by way of not directly hiring people.
NLRB changed their criteria for what is considered co-employment last month, widely broadening the definitions used to determine this status. Essentially, if a company has significant control (not just exclusive control) over any of a worker's employment status or conditions, then they are considered a co-employer now. It used to be that a company needed exclusive or overriding control over another company's employees to be considered a co-employer.
I'm certain we are going to see more lawsuits and legal challenges from employees because of this. I'm pretty certain there already are lawsuits from some other Google contractors over this exact thing; they are providing a case that Google is their co-employer due to the control they have over every aspect of their work.
That's excellent news, especially for the employees of Amazon subcontractors handling warehouse and delivery operations.
Doesn't appear so, seems Google is okay with them unionizing. According to a ruling from a while back Google is required to bargain with the union just as much as cognizant is but it appears cognizant is the one which is unwilling to bargain with the workers. Google's track record with workers leads me to believe that they have no issue with workers unionizing.
What planet are you living on? Did you read the article? Or even the headline? Google is constantly union busting, and this article explicitly states that Google is refusing to bargain with the bargaining unit, despite court rulings that they are required to.
The only reason why they say they dont care about these people unionizing is because they fully intend on ignoring the union. They believe they can appeal the decision that they are required to bargain and win.
Yeah I read this article and other sources on the subject that give more details. Google has said they support them organizing but it's not up to them. As far as I'm aware Google is the only tech giant that has an employee workers union
Well you absolutely know wrong lmao the Alphabet Workers Union is not recognized by NLRB, and Amazon's Workers Union is. Apple also has some unionization, as do several video game developers and support companies.
Google has said they support them unionizing because they think it will not affect them at all. Maybe go look into the handful of people who have attempted to formally unionize at Google and see how they have all been fired. Then try and tell me Google supports unionization.
Amazon Warehouse and delivery drivers unionizing is not similar to the situation that the YouTube Music workers are dealing with and aren't the same as what the Alphabet union is but I'm glad you feel like undermining alphabet users achieving what they have but you are fully into recognizing two Apple retail stores barely passing and neglecting to mention their constant Union busting and propaganda. Thanks for supporting workers!
Two things: for one, I work at Google and am part of the AWU, so fuck you.
And for two, please explain exactly how amazon unionization is so fundamentally different from AWU unionization? Is it because AWU seeks to represent workers from every contractor/vendor alongside actual full time Googlers? Or what?
Yeah you know what. You are just a shit human. Good luck my guy I'm not gonna waste my time with your vile bullshit
Lmao you've got nothing, that's why you aren't gonna waste your time. You tried saying I dont support workers or some shit when I'm part of the fucking union you just claimed me to be undermining. Maybe join and support a union yourself? I wouldn't stoop as low as calling you a shit human, but you are severely misguided.
No because I'm not gonna argue with a short asshole who just makes up shit to try to win internet arguments.
And what do you think I've made up to win an argument? You are making a lot of baseless claims here, looks like you are the one making up shit
Lol what would I have made up? That makes no sense
You made up me making up stuff. I never misrepresented anything in my comments, so your claim that I have made stuff up is a lie.
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Oh, and I support you union and whatever.
Did you remember to take your medications?
Oh and thanks for the support
Oh, I don't actually care about unions or supporting them. I just want you to eat shit. nlbr is a scape goat for that.
You do understand that your comments are incomprehensible, right? Do you need someone to call a doctor?
You can go ahead and stay wanting tho, as I'm sure you are used to.
And what is an nlbr? Or nlbl? It seriously appears that you are suffering from an aneurysm.