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Microsoft is releasing a big Windows 11 update on September 26. Update 23H2 includes the new AI-powered Windows Copilot feature, a native RAR app, a new volume mixer and a lot more.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Can we just ungroup the damned Taskbar already? I don't understand why they are being so stubborn on this.

[–] Nankeru@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

That's already available for insiders and can be enabled, meaning it will soon-ish come to the stable versions of Windows 11.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's the number one reason I stayed on 10. I'm figuring out a swap to Linux - gaming is my only concern. Might just dual boot.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other than game devs who intentionally block Linux with anti-cheat (Epic, Riot) almost all other games work perfectly fine on Linux nowadays.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

This is a LOT of people currently. We all want off of this Microsoft crapfest. Luckily a lot of us bailed on Windows 11 so we won’t have to deal with this further enshittification of windows.

Gaben had a talk about the future of Linux gaming so things are moving and windows will finally be a forgotten memory.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a passionate Linux User, so take it from me: Many things won't work. Especially without figuring technical things out. Steam stuff is often okay, modding sucks, Anti-Cheat crapware will Mist probably not work at all.

That's just what were dealing with. Praised be all game companies with Linux Support, this and "No Tux no Bux".

Due to lack of this I just started tinkering with computers instead.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I much prefer Linux to Windows except for a few key things.

One key thing is hardware / driver support. It isn't that Windows is easier to develop drivers for, it's just that most people use it, so that's where manufacturers put their effort. But, it is really annoying that things mostly just work under Windows, but often under Linux they don't. Sometimes getting them to work is a matter of a quick internet search and a small patch. Other times there is no solution and you're stuck with hardware that doesn't fully work.

The other key thing is game support. Again, since Windows is the default platform, games work on Windows. But, for a long time, they didn't work at all on Linux.

I'm really excited that Valve is changing that thanks to the Steam Deck. It could end up solving both of those problems. As more and more games work on Windows, there will be less of a reason to use Windows if you're into PC games. If more people use Linux, there will be more of an incentive for driver manufacturers to support Linux.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The year of the Linux desktop is coming my friend

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it's a joke, but I never saw "The Year of the Linux Handheld Gaming Computer Which Was Released and Supported By Valve" coming so...

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's only a joke if times seem desperate

[–] UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swapped about a month ago. I'm running Ubuntu on desktop and openSuse Tumbleweed on laptop; both with KDE Plasma desktop environment, which makes the transition from windows easier. It's a little bit of a learning curve as the names of software packages are unfamiliar to me, but I'm liking it.

My partner who never even contemplated anything else but windows did some work on my computer and I expected questions and frustration from her, but alas she did what she needed to do and I doubt she even noticed.

Mind you, I don't really do gaming.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Even gaming is good on Linux now. Until you use the minimum softwares portfolio it's okay. But if you are a content creator or if you need many softwares for your work it's better to keep windows. After years of testing and trying to swap, Linux still have issues with hardware compatibility and version update (without reinstalling all the stuff) on my concern. And it will never replace windows cause the software library is too small. I am not saying that is not polish or easy it just depends what you need to do with.

[–] GibSteamCodes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I recommend StartAllBack. Granted no third party apps should be required for such a simple feature, StartAllBack does this and more.

[–] eddie@lem.lucitt.social 4 points 1 year ago

I second this. I've tried all of the other programs that make customization changes to the taskbar and StartAllBack feels native. I forget that I'm using a third party tool until I switch to another computer and wonder why the start menu is utter garbage.

[–] TheWildTangler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It won't be needed on the 26th, ungrouping was announced months ago.

I do love StartAllBack though. I'm curious if the new file explorer will convince me to stop using the Win10 Ribbon mode in StartAllBack

[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Start11 by Stardock does this and more, its not FOSS, but is cheap (if you go the legal route). There is also Winhawk, which is FOSS, though is a little less intuitive.

[–] premavansmuuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ungroup icon of multiple instances of one app into separate taskbar items? That's been in insider builds for some time now. (Luckily...)

[–] TheWildTangler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They're not being stubborn, it's coming in this same update and was announced at least 6 months ago

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I keep hearing this complain so I guess it clearly bothers some people but personally to me it never causes any issues nor I see the benefit on ungrouping.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have multiple windows of something you can go to the one you need directly. Them always bring grouped and requiring twice as many steps instead feels like I'm being handicapped by the OS.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idk I guess I barely use the mouse for windows changing and that's why doesn't bother me. Well that and I don't think I have that many apps with multiple windows that group, except I guess the file explorer but now it has tabs support.