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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like movies, comic book movies in particular, are structured to condition people to resist changing their worldview, especially views that society wants the audience to have.

Like Batman movies are notorious for this because they're always about pressuring Batman to kill and his refusal to for stupid reasons, even when it is obviously the morally correct thing to do. And producers do it because they don't want the audience to think killing evil people is good -- can't enable the peasants to guillotine their masters, after all.

I genuinely wish we'd get a movie that kind of does what you're asking; that has a character who holds socially correct worldviews and who rejects those views in a way that philosophically makes sense. A movie that sincerely questions those views.

I think the closest we ever got to something like that in modern film is Fight Club.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However the interaction with Raz Al-Gul in Batman Begins did have a little transformation. I haven’t seen it in a really long time but I remember it being a darkening/opening of Wayne’s outlook on life.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And then Batman was completely derailed at the end of TDK leading to the mess that was TDKR.

I don't think the Nolan trilogy was well thought out and he was just winging it toward the end. Begins and TDK were good, granted, but you can still tell.