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Idaho Banned Abortion. Then It Turned Down Supports for Pregnancies and Births.
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They claim to be pro-life, but they're really just anti-women and pro-forced-birth.
their namecalling and pointing fingers into others, too often ends up as a projection, while their pro-something claims too often ends up being flat opposite.
Whenever you point a finger, you got three more pointing back at you.
I've said this 1,000 times, and I'll repeat it as often as I need to.
The Left is arguing Human Rights. The Right is arguing Property Rights. Conservative values are very clear that women are not seen as independent individuals, but as property of their fathers and then their husbands. Women are chattel. This mentality permeates and pervades every aspect of Conservative ideology where women are concerned. Men must protect women. Not because it benefits the woman, though they will tell women that they should be grateful for the protection. Men must protect their property, they must protect their investment in that woman. It's important to understand that Conservatives view all non-white, non-male, queer, and non-Conservatives as inherently inferior, requiring their guidance and control to conform to their superior ideology, or extermination if they refuse.
View everything they say and do through that lens, and everything makes perfect sense.
you need to get off the Internet. seriously. fellow human.
This conclusion has nothing to do with the internet. It comes from having to live with these people. It comes from having their vitriol literally screamed in my face. The internet is somehow more sane than the reality I have to live in most days.
that sucks im sorry. not all of us are like that. i became a christian while tripping on psychedelics. jesus said we are all made perfect in the image of our creator and that we aren't to judge anyone as god will sort it out later. "vitriol" was never a part of the gospel. however, i must also point out that you are just as capable of judging and hurting people as anyone else. i would humbly suggest that your paragraph above is highly judgemental, lumps large groups of well-meaning people in with extremists, and is not an example of the tolerance and open-mindedness that you value. would you like to hear about my psychedelic experiences where i found god?
I can understand why you might feel that way, as I did use some generalities. I don't take issue with people of faith, being one myself. I take issue with bigots, idolaters and hypocrites who pay lip service to their "faith" while using cherry picked and deliberate misquotes of scripture to harm others. Especially when those same people can rarely ever directly quote any of Jesus' direct commandments. They sure can quote Paul, though.
100%. There are plenty of studies showing that supposed "pro-life" sentiment explains little of the left-right difference in abortion support.
Perhaps unsurprisingly states that restrict abortions also have worse health outcomes for women and children.
That sounds right, but I wonder how they measured things like sexiam and authoritarianism. If it's measurable, I would be interested to see how it corresponds with other political positions.
Probably with questions like "Should women be able to start a bank account without permission of their husband?" or something along those lines for sexism, and some sort of question that determines whether a ruler should be able to enact policies against the majority of the vote, etc.
Yup Republican, conservative, neoliberal, and capitalist need women to be brood sows and the young to be poor and uneducated. It's the only way their economic and political systems work.
It's funny you mention brood sows as one of the Idaho legislaters directly compared women's reproduction to that of cows
https://jezebel.com/idaho-lawmaker-i-have-opinions-on-the-womens-health-th-1849984572 To quote him directly:
These states will quickly become women dead zones, like India and China. The moment women are able to leave, they will! Republican men already cry about the dating scene, just wait until ~50% of all women move away when they turn 18. The first civil war was fought over run away slaves, the second one will be over run away women.