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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

People also tend to forget that dictionaries were compiled for the sake of selling them for profit.

Dictionaries aren't the be all end all of a language.

If something accurately communicates an idea, then it has done its job. You can argue for accuracy, but at the end of the day, fuck off.

[–] Sorchist@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

I don't think you can put this at the feet of BIG DICTIONARY.

Dictionaries are generally descriptivist and don't preach. It's style guides and individual angry language weirdos who preach.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's funny when people use the dictionary like it's some perfectly unbiased and authoritative source, rather than a compilation of how people use words

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit we've really started going after big dictionary now as well? What's next, big water?

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don't go dragging Nestlé into this

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Someone compared dictionaries to maps. If the map shows a street that's unusable or doesn't show a street that's clearly there and leads to your goal, don't trust the map over reality. The map needs an update and so do dictionaries

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a lot of them were made for national pride (not English ones necessarily)

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

But even the differences between British and American English are in part out of the national need to separate from each other. English was standardized around the time of the American independence and the first American dictionary was oriented at the British one, later the same guy made a different one to set American spelling apart. Words for Granted made a podcast episode about it.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever met someone who's actually paid for a dictionary in the last several decades? I don't think there's a global conspiracy trying to sell them to people lol, you can access most for free fairly easily.

I don't know of any dictionaries that try to teach you the King's correct English. But people still point to them as if they do.