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The far-right representative has plunged the House into chaos—and turned his own party against him.

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[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What will it take for republicans to expel one of their own? Apparently child trafficking isn’t it.

[–] Bigmodirty@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Working with democrats or reaching across the isle in any form

[–] arensb@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This.

McCarthy did the right thing for once, and came up with a solution to the looming shutdown that managed to pass by getting both Republican and Democratic votes. And he got shitcanned for it.

The message here is that as far as MAGA Republicans are concerned, bipartisanship is a firing offense.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And now Republicans blame Democrats for not supporting him lmao

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It may have been a no win choice for Dems, but I’m a little worried that we’re gonna end up with a much worse speaker.

Keeping McCarthy would have at least been fucking over Gaetz.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm hoping they're unable to coalesce around another person.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear we're likely to get Jim Jordan. UGH.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Fucking hell. The GOP really loves making pedophiles and rape enablers their leaders, apparently.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that seems like it’s best case.

Dream case would be the less right reps putting up someone sensible enough for Dems to support.

This predicates a sensible candidate existing, so will remain a dream (and still a shitty one, like dreaming a full day of school just before waking up on a school day).

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point no one knows really. This could also end up being the beginning of the Republican Party permanently fracturing. It seems we get closer to that each day.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think that would have already happened if the moderates thought they’d have any chance at winning elections as a centrist party, but first past the pole voting keeps 3rd party candidates out of contention in most districts. The math is against it happening, or it might have happened back when the dipshit tea partiers arrived.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Parties have died before even under our system, it is possible.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I dunno, Boebert got caught on video "reaching across the aisle" with her Democratic boyfriend during Beetlejuice and the GOP hasn't done anything to her.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well, he did vote with all House Democrats...

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Donating GOP funds to the poor probably

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe if their constituents actively annoyed them about it for long enough? Far-fetched, but it might just work.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have staffers to make sure that doesn't happen.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ain't no staffers got shit on a handful of people with vuvuzela following the representative around whenever they're in public. Rotate the shifts, 1 hour each, and you only need 24 people daily for permanent vuvuzela brrrrrrr heralding their elected official of choice.

I would also enjoy watching a legion of mimes mockingly reacting to representatives in interviews, if the vuvuzela is too 'public nuisance'.

Or both. Both would be great. Public shaming could be a very creative and cathartic outlet.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have cops to handle outright harassment. Politicians are the kind of people cops actually look out for.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Vuvuzelas and mimes are surely free speech, in the land of the free and the home of the brave. 🇺🇸 /s

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

The Realpolitik of the situation is that if they expel Santos, he gets replaced by a Democrat immediately, who will swim to re-election. Gaetz is in a safe Republican district under a Republican governor, so they can replace him without causing any real problems.

Not to even remotely equate the situations, but it's the same reason why Dems went after Franken and are going after Menendez right now; it doesn't cost them anything to do so. They'd be much less likely to go after someone like Senator Manchin of WV, Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, and Senators Warnock and Ossoff of Georgia unless they were absolutely forced to, since doing so would mean the loss of the Senate.

And it is a genuinely messy question. How heinous an act is worth losing the ability to pass any legislation and make any judicial appointments? I really don't think there is a clear answer to that. A few Senators made the difference between Roe v. Wade standing and falling.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Breeding fetuses in space, unveiling gender reveal parties, then aborting them to harvest adrenochrome and liquefying the remains to use as a base for COVID shots?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

It's ok if you're a Republican.