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submitted 11 months ago by Samsy@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Just a hint for people searching a tiny selfhosted messenger with encryption and apps for iOS and android.

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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

End-to-End encryption (the hosting admin cannot view sealed topics, default unsealed)

oh no

[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It says it's federated. When you are your own provider, e2ee doesn't matter nearly as much (you probably have a bunch of personal files, backups, services running on the same box anyway).

Edit: I would gladly take constructive comments with the downvotes. For a moment I thought we were on "selfhosted", where "you are your own provider" should resonate in with most

[-] IAm_A_Complete_Idiot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

The point of federation means your content doesn't only stay on your server. The person you're talking too can be on a different one and their admin can see them too. Also, I wouldn't want to be able to access content from any user - it's a "no trust needed" thing.

[-] abeam@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

with databag, the content only resides on the hosting node, or on the device of a topic participant. in the case of matrix.org, federation means your content will live on other servers, but that's not the case for databag.

your point about the admin being able to see the content is valid. if the databag node is hosted by someone else, then they to would have access to the content if e2ee is not used.

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