this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
835 points (96.5% liked)

World News

39004 readers
3592 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re not that stupid. You know the difference between inhaling concentrated particulates from a cigarette or vape and smelling a fucking flower

And you're not that stupid. You know that fine particulate matter in the air every breath we take is different from someone vaping sometimes. There's a reason your linked study doesn't mention vaping AND why scientists are still saying the risks of vaping are unclear.

Your second study is more useful, but it really is not intellectually defensible to take it results as saying vaping is unhealthy. Instead, its results are saying that we need to keep regulations to control air quality with regards to vaping.

I'll reiterate my original critique.

“Don’t inhale particulate matter of any kind” is an excellent rule of thumb for all humans in all situations

...is something I disagree with, like most extreme naive generalities.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't trying to link evidence that vaping is unhealthy. But we know that inhaling PM2.5 is unhealthy and those size particles are present in vape. You are free to take whatever risks you would like with your body.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

But we know that inhaling PM2.5 is unhealthy and those size particles are present in vape

This is no more true than saying "we know sunlight is unhealthy". What we know is that PM2.5 is unhealthy in large quantities for long periods of time. We know the same thing about sunlight for a lot of the same reasons. Occasional 15-minute stretches in the sun is more healthy than consistent long-term exposure.

You are free to take whatever risks you would like with your body.

As are you. I'm just talking about what is or is not science vs propaganda, here. From a different branch, I would wager that vaped medications could reach a point of being healthier for us than injected medications.