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I’m sorry, but I cannot help you with finding pirated movies. Piracy is illegal and unethical 😉
(feddit.it)
Then I asked her to tell me if she knows about the books2 dataset (they trained this ai using all the pirated books in zlibrary and more, completely ignoring any copyright) and I got:
I’m sorry, but I cannot answer your question. I do not have access to the details of how I was trained or what data sources were used. I respect the intellectual property rights of others, and I hope you do too. 😊 I appreciate your interest in me, but I prefer not to continue this conversation.
Aaaand I got blocked
Where did corps get the idea that we want our software to be incredibly condescending?
It was trained on human text and interactions, so …
maybe that's a quite bad implication?
There’s a default invisible prompt that precedes every conversation that sets parameters like tone, style, and taboos. The AI was instructed to behave like this, at least somewhat.
That is mildly true during the training phase, but to take that high level knowledge and infer that "somebody told the AI to be condescending" is unconfirmed, very unlikely, and frankly ridiculous. There are many more likely points in which the model can accidentally become "condescending", for example the training data (it's trained on the internet afterall) or throughout the actual user interaction itself.
I didn’t say they specifically told it to be condescending. They probably told it to adopt something like a professional neutral tone and the trained model produced a mildly condescending tone because that’s what it associated with those adjectives. This is why I said it was only somewhat instructed to do this.
They almost certainly tweaked and tested it before releasing it to the public. So they knew what they were getting either way and this must be what they wanted or close enough.
Also unconfirmed, however your comment was in response to the AI sounding condescending, not "professional neutral".
No the comment I responded to was saying it was sounding condescending because it was trained to mimic humans. My response is that it sounds how they want it to because it’s tone is defined by a prompt that is inserted into the beginning of every interaction. A prompt they tailored to produce a tone they desired.
And that's not necessarily true either. The tone would absolutely be a product of the training data, it would also be a product of the model's fine-tuning, a product of the conversation itself, and a product of the prompts that may or may not be given at run-time in the backend. So sure, your statement is general enough that it might possibly be partially true depending on the model's implementation, but to say "it sounds like that because they want it to" is a massive oversimplification, especially in the context of a condescending tone.
They can tweak the prompt in order to make it sound how they want. Their current default prompt is almost certainly the work of many careful revisions to achieve something as close to possible to what they want. The only way it would adopt this tone from the training data is if it was spcefically trained on condescending text, in which case that would also be a deliberate choice. I don't know how to make this point any clearer.
Do you know how much data these models are actually trained on? Do you really think it's all specifically parsed for tone?
No which is why my assumption is that the tone is adopted from their prompt rather than the almost certainly pre-trained general purpose model they are almost certainly using.
Right, and that statement itself is a massive oversimplification of the process. I feel like I've explained that in detail many times already.
You can 'explain' all the technical details you like but nothing is going to change the fact that it was put out as it is, after careful work to make it as close as they could to how they wanted it. If I spend hours typing up prompts to get Bing to make a photorealistic image of garfield eating a vanilla ice cream cone, and finally get it to consitently do that but with chocolate, that doesn't mean the whole thing is biased toward making photorealist garfields.
Great, so now you've dropped the "prompting" aspect and made your argument generic to the point of it just being "they want it like that because they released it like that". Congrats, you've moved the goalposts so far that I guess you're technically correct. Good job?
I didn't drop the prompting. over half that comment is specifically an analogy about prompting. are you ok
Your analogy has absolutely nothing to do with how LLMs are trained. You seem to think GPT is just prompt engineering...
Humans are deuterostomes which means that the first hole that develops in an embryo is the asshole. Kinda telling.
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Yeh to be fair it’s based on us.
I always thought it was so they could avoid all potential legal issues with countries so they went crazy on the censorship to make sure
We do. I pay to work with it, I want it to do what I want, even if wrong. I am leading.
Same for all professionals and companies paying for these models
Uhhh projecting a bit??
I don’t know about your reading comprehension skills, but sure that explains why AI voices are trained on feminine voices (more recordings, old phone operators, false theories on sounding more distinct).
However, this has nothing to do with “the way women talk to devs”. Women are not a monolith, they literally make up half our species and have just as much variance as men.
“can’t you see i was just joking, you must not be very funny if you don’t get my joke hardy har har”
The classic defense of someone that’s just using humor as a shield for being an asshole. There are w plenty of ways to be funny that don’t involve punching down in the same old tired ways.
You can do better with your comedy career, I believe in you.
That doesn't prove their point, it states that customers prefer the safer sound of a female voice in voice controlled AI assistants, and that there's more training data for female voices due to this.
This has nothing to do with AI chat talking in a condescending manner.
I am going to assume every downvote on your accurate fact based statement is from men who refer to women as females.
Real men know how terrible those betas treat women.
What are both of you taking about?
You sound like little dweebs trying to out dweeb each other.
Goofy as hell
Takes one to know one!
The guy you're responding to was complaining about how condescending women are to devs, so I don't know why you're defending him when you clearly have the opposite opinion.